I give biblical support for endless time vs timelessness. Your timelessness view is explicitly Platonic philosophy, not biblical truth. Godly philosophy is needed in some areas (free will vs determinism debate, nature of time, etc.) since Scripture does not resolve these issues. Mature Christian thinkers give supremacy to Scripture, but also recognize the need for sound logic, godly philosophy, etc. You wrongly assume all philosophy is false or pagan (nope).
Proof from the Bible that God is In Time
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I give biblical support for endless time vs timelessness. Your timelessness view is explicitly Platonic philosophy, not biblical truth. Godly philosophy is needed in some areas (free will vs determinism debate, nature of time, etc.) since Scripture does not resolve these issues. Mature Christian thinkers give supremacy to Scripture, but also recognize the need for sound logic, godly philosophy, etc. You wrongly assume all philosophy is false or pagan (nope).
"Godly philosophy"? never heard of it, thanks for the heads up.
Many of your classical views on the attributes of God are influenced by Thomas Aquinas philosophy on 'being', etc. (which had some Platonic, Augustinian influences, etc.). They are not explicitly biblical (aseity, impassibility, simplicity, etc.). We affirm the trinity within biblical parameters, but when we rightly talk about things like homoousias, etc., we are more in the realm of godly (vs pagan) philosophy (love of truth, etc.), than biblical proof texts.
Likewise, epistemology, logic, etc. can help us form right biblical views not found in proof texts, etc.
Never heard of the people you speak of. I have no idea what you are getting at. Do you ever use Scripture when talking about God?
Don't be naive. Your classical views have been influenced by Augustine, etc. Equally capable, godly believers read the same Bible and come to different conclusions, but all are not right.
If you want to discuss the Deity of Christ vs Arianism, I will use Scripture. If you want to have detailed discussion on the nature of free will, time vs eternity, etc., then we will use Scripture and critical thinking, speculation, logic, etc.
I already don't trust you. You have slippery words and concepts and in your last two posts you forgot to captalize the word Godly.
Don't care. Capitalize it.
So, you are going to go against proper English grammar out of arrogant ignorance and demand the rest of us to be in error? Why trust your theology if you can't get grade school English grammar right?!
What a dweeb.
You don't use Scripture, that also puts you outside of the realm of trust as far as anything you have to say regarding God.
Capitalizing aside. You are slippery with the Word of God.
"godly" is in reference to a person who is not God, which is why it is not capitalized (even though they pursue the things of God).
mostly.
So God's a liar now?
Did it seriously never occur to you that God put the ram there to be prepared? Or maybe the ram worked for either outcome, because if Abraham were disobedient he would need a sin sacrifice.
You change your name to "night sky," or "cloudy sky," because you're clearly not very bright.
Where is the Scripture stating that time is a creation?
Because He's God; He is sovereign; if He doesn't want to know He doesn't have to.
Why do you believe God exists outside of time? Why do you believe time is such that there exists an outside?
You need to learn to read angry boy.
And what, pray tell, did I fail to read?
Aimiel
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If a tree falls and no one hears it there is still sound. God has always existed. There was no change or anything to measure by time. He created time for our existence.
Aimiel
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If God didn't know the end of time from the beginning, then what He made wouldn't be good or even complete, it would just be a guess. He knows of a certainty everything that will EVER happen, since He is God. God knows who will pass and who will fail every test. The test isn't so that He can find out, it's so He can prove those who are His. It's so they appreciate Him.
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