On Rape

[glorydaz]

No he can't or he wouldn't have made so many reports in the woodshed.

You saw whiners because that's the only filter you use when you read a viewpoint that's not coming from a conservative. I understand that, just pointing it out. The same way you told me that liberals can't help the way they are. So he can have this thread. Maybe he'll feel better now.

Well, once again, Anna, you are projecting.

What I said was there is no room in the liberal brain for common sense. Whining is a separate issue. Some liberals manage to refrain from whining....usually because they are too busy lecturing. Some conservatives whine ....usually over the fact that liberals aren't listening.

 

[glorydaz]

Anyone?

Yes, liberal policies are at fault for most of society's ills. :thumb:

 

[glorydaz]

that makes him a whiner

Not all reports to the woodshed are made by whiners. Many are made by reporters....whistle blowers, if you will.

 

[intojoy]

You didn't confuse me. You started out confused and you've stayed confused and now you're trying to project your confusion onto me. Not even a good try, Into Self. :chuckle:

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[glorydaz]

This family has saved the lives of countless pre-born while counseling at the life care center. Their children follow in their footsteps. They leave a legacy of obedience and faithfulness to the Gospel.

There are reasons for the saying, "Actions speak louder than words."

 

[Angel4Truth]

Yes, liberal policies are at fault for most of society's ills. :thumb:

yep, like liberals covering up the mass rapes in germany and uk and other nations where floods of immigrant muslims are pouring in, and there answer is for women to cover up better, stay home, do not go out unaccompanied, lest they be "misunderstood" as wanting it apparantly etc. so they are certainly over there blaming the women.

Yes, liberals blaming the women, instead of cracking down on the deviants and making examples of them - protecting the terrorists at the expense of others, so yes - their policies are making them responsible for it.

 

[glorydaz]

yep, like liberals covering up the mass rapes in germany and uk and other nations where floods of immigrant muslims are pouring in, and there answer is for women to cover up better, stay home, do not go out unaccompanied, lest they be "misunderstood" as wanting it apparantly etc. so they are certainly over there blaming the women.

Yes, liberals blaming the women, instead of cracking down on the deviants and making examples of them - protecting the terrorists at the expense of others, so yes - their policies are making them responsible for it.

Liberals are pros at contradicting themselves. :idunno:

 

[glassjester]

Did you ever stop to consider what made those crimes more likely to occur now than in the past. Step one. Did you ever think of any ways in which you could change the culture that caused the increase? Step two. Did you ever take any conscious action based on what you knew you could do? Step three.

1 - yes

2 - yes

3 - yes


I honestly don't see how this confers individual culpability on the victim of a crime.

 

[glassjester]

Which is the kind of thinking that leads to things like this:

California: Male prisoners who call themselves women will be sent to women’s prisons

Please elaborate.

 

[alwight]

yep, like liberals covering up the mass rapes in germany and uk and other nations where floods of immigrant muslims are pouring in,

Unlike most of continental Europe the UK still manages its borders. Muslim criminal sex trade gangs here are unfortunately home grown, nothing to do with immigrants or wannabe immigrants.

 

[Angel4Truth]

Please elaborate.

Policies that encourage deviancy.

 

[glassjester]

Policies that encourage deviancy.

I mean to ask how my type of thinking leads to the deviance you cited.

 

[Angel4Truth]

I mean to ask how my type of thinking leads to the deviance you cited.

Being flippant about how there is nothing we can do and pretending that safeguards arent needed and that we cant allow ourselves to become crime victims by our own actions and policies.

 

[glassjester]

Being flippant about how there is nothing we can do and pretending that safeguards arent needed and that we cant allow ourselves to become crime victims by our own actions and policies.

Those seem like very foolish beliefs. Are those really my beliefs?

 

[Angel4Truth]

Those seem like very foolish beliefs. Are those really my beliefs?

Thats what it appeared to me, to be saying.

 

[Angel4Truth]

He seems to be mixing up culpability with mere existence.

Yes, the victim had to exist (in a specific time and place) in order to become a victim of any particular crime.

Yet there is no coherent link to culpability there. At all.

Sure there is, in plenty of cases. He gave a perfect example of one.

 

[glassjester]

Thats what it appeared to me, to be saying.

I don't think I ever implied that there's "nothing we can do" (a sentiment you attributed to me) about crime, and I most definitely don't believe that to be true.

Nor do I believe, as Ok Doser posits, that every victim is personally responsible for every crime committed against him.

Do you?

 

[Angel4Truth]

I don't think I ever implied that there's "nothing we can do" (a sentiment you attributed to me) about crime, and I most definitely don't believe that to be true.

Nor do I believe, as Ok Doser posits, that every victim is personally responsible for every crime committed against him.

Do you?

Nope, and he didnt say that either - you did. That is what some people are trying to attribute to him as saying, but he didnt.

 

[glassjester]

Nope, and he didnt say that either - you did. That is what some people are trying to attribute to him as saying, but he didnt.

Try, for the sake of meaningful discussion, to narrow your actual position to a specific, coherent statement.

 

[Grosnick Marowbe]

This evil world cannot be rehabilitated, and goes on it's way whether we "allow" it to or not.

Galatians 1:4
Who gave himself for our sins, that he might deliver us from this present evil world, according to the will of God and our Father:​

Amen. Hi Glory.