My God
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Lon
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You really need to get rid of your 'us/them' mentality, Meshak. I know others push it but you don't have to fall into that or accept it every time concerning all TOL members. You are a member of TOL so some of your 'them' is really just 'us.' It'll help you offer up graciousness at times. Be assured 1m1s is no Calvinist sympathizer. He isn't even Triune. We respect that we are both trying to study to be pleasing in God's sight. We don't agree, but we do respect some things in one another. Honestly, if it weren't for Arians pushing so hard all the time, you'd all do a lot better covering other topics on TOL with a measure of mutuality. 1mind and I have other things in common that we both appreciate. -Lon
You know, I honor Jesus' word and trins don't. So I don't have much respect of their faith.
I am for Christians who honor Jesus' teaching more than their own doctrines.
BTW, not all non-trins respect Jesus' teaching either.
Actually, there are many non-trins don't give much respect to Jesus' word in this forum.
It seems that 1M1S is one of them.
1Mind1Spirit
Literal lunatic
It seems that as long as they are civil and good at debating it is OK with you.
1Mind1Spirit
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I was only trying to figure you out.
I try to understand the posters here so when they post I understand where they are coming from. I always encourage like minded Christians. So if they honor Jesus' teachings they become one of mine.
1Mind1Spirit
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Okay.
I've found that this is very hard to understand but very important.
Roman 10
For Moses writes about the righteousness that is based on the law, that the person who does the commandments shall live by them.
6 But the righteousness based on faith says, "Do not say in your heart, 'Who will ascend into heaven?'"(that is, to bring Christ down)
7 or "'Who will descend into the abyss?'" (that is, to bring Christ up from the dead).
8 But what does it say? "The word is near you, in your mouth and in your heart" (that is, the word of faith that we proclaim);
9 because, if you confess with your mouth that Jesus is Lord and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved.
10 For with the heart one believes and is justified, and with the mouth one confesses and is saved.
11 For the Scripture says, "Everyone who believes in him will not be put to shame."
1Mind1Spirit
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How do you read this?
The topic is, "MY GOD," and it was my God who inspired his chosen scribes to records his truths, of which Stephen lied about.
1Mind1Spirit
Literal lunatic
What did Jesus say?
Matthew 12:37 ESV / For by your words you will be justified, and by your words you will be condemned.”
Are you saying encouraging like minded Christians are wrong thing to do?
1Mind1Spirit
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Lon
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Absolutely, which is why you are on ignore. You realize you paid Trinitarians for your membership here, though, right? You simply MUST realize that the majority of us are Triune. To not, is to make your world incredibly small. I believe Jesus much more capable than you give Him credit for. The JW's messed you up and made you a bigot on this one. Most Christians are and have been Triune. Most.
"Doctrines" is a word in the Bible. I think you are talking about "doctrines of men" but you have to differentiate else you are against the word of God.
I realize that. Evangelical fundamentalists have a large influence upon terms and identity. All non-Trinitarians have to belong to what are viewed as cultic non-Christian churches or none at all.
Why would you say that? He knows the bible pretty well. I disagree with him on this one issue, but he and I have a like mind on a lot of other issues. Okay, so we'd be separated, not able to attend the same church. You are correct and right to call that fact to the table. He and my discussion here was only about Christian education. We digressed from the topic at hand and came to a mutual understanding. We are both still on opposite sides of the fence, just talking congenially over it. Nobody is crossing the divide. Don't be so quick to judge him (or me even). You tend to 'react' rather than 'act.' Get your cues more from Jesus than the Jehovah Witnesses etc.
But they were not the teachings of the man Jesus were they?
Deuteronomy 18: 18; YHVH, the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, says to Moses; "I will send them a prophet like you from among their own people; I will tell him what to say, and he will tell the people everything I command. He will speak in my name etc.
Who is the prophet that the God/JHWH is referring to here?
Peter confirms that Jesus was that man, when in reference to Jesus he says in. Acts 3: 22; For Moses said; "The Lord your God will send you a prophet, just as he sent me, and he will be one of your own people, etc."
Do you believe the words of Peter?
Acts 3:19; "Repent then and turn to God, (Not to Jesus, but to God) so that He (God) will forgive your sins. If you do, times of spiritual strength will come from the Lord, and He will send Jesus, who is the Messiah that he has already CHOSEN for you. The man Jesus, was chosen and made both Lord and saviour by "Who I Am".
Did the people of his day believe that he was the Lord, the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob. The God of our ancestors? No, they did not, for on the day of his triumphant entry into Jerusalem, the people escorting him cried out, "BLESSED IS HE WHO COMES IN THE NAME OF THE LORD" Verifying that they believed Jesus to be the one that God had prophesied that he would choose from among the Israelites, and send to the people to speak in his name.
Jesus who admits that he spoke not one word on his own authority, but only that which he was commanded to say by our Lord God and saviour, says in John 5: 24; "Whoever hear my words (The words that he was commanded to say) and believes in "HIM" who sent me, has eternal life.
You must believe in "HIM" who sent Jesus to inherit eternal life.
John 14: 24; "And the word which you hear is not mine, but the father’s who sent me.
Whose words were these in reference to the body of Jesus which had been filled by the spirit of the Lord that had descended upon him in the form of a dove?
"Destroy this temple, and in three days I will raise it up?"
If those were the words of the man Jesus, we would expect to see that Jesus raised himself from death, but if they were the words of the Lord who filled the man Jesus with his spirit and chose him to speak in his name, then they would have been the words that the Lord commanded his obedient servant Jesus to speak, and we would expect to see that it was the Lord who raised the man Jesus to life, as seen in...............
Acts 17: 31; For He (The Lord) has fixed a day in which he will judge the whole world with justice by means of a MAN he has CHOSEN. He has given proof of this to everyone by raising that MAN from death.
Acts 5: 30; The God of our fathers raised up Jesus, whom you slew and hanged on a tree.
Acts 13: 30; But God raised him from the dead: and he was seen many days of them which came up with him from Galilee, etc.
1st Corinthians 6: 14; And God has both raised up the Lord, and will also raise up us by his own power.
2nd Corinthians 1: 9; But we had the sentence of death in ourselves, that we should not trust in ourselves, but in God which raiseth the dead.
2nd Corinthians 4: 14; knowing that he who raised the Lord Jesus will raise us also with Jesus and bring us with you into his presence.