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Shouldn't even be a thing you need to be told. If you can't condemn rape and are reduced to blaming women for 'doing things they ought not' for being violated (not that you even clarified those particulars) then you're a moron at best and a danger to women else.

You don't get to blame a woman for assaulting them whether they're in a habit or in the buff.

You don't encourage them to do anything about rape, you just join them in telling people not to rape :chuckle:

If anybody is a danger to women, it's you hombre. That is, after their own selves- they must like victimhood to be so unwilling to do anything about rape- it's like standing in front of a stampede and demanding the horses to stop :wave:
 

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Who isn't aware of consent laws?
Not that there are laws regarding consent, but how those apply. And the answer is a great many of the people who stand to be most impacted by them, given their personal habits. Young guys into college age.

I guess we also need to 'teach men not to rape', right?
We need to let every potentially sexually active male understand the ramifications of assuming, the impact of intoxication, etc. on judgement and consent and the life altering consequences of getting that wrong.

This nonsense yall speak- it's complete crap.
You're speaking with me. I'm not "Y'all". I have particular points, arguments and authority. Until you can manage that you're just a loud kid.
 

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We need to let every potentially sexually active male understand the ramifications of assuming, the impact of intoxication, etc. on judgement and consent and the life altering consequences of getting that wrong.

Everybody knows, and the one's who do so anyway do not care. That's what criminals do- they violate.

And
-being groped is not life altering
-sexual innuendo is not life altering
-regretting a decision to have sex is not life altering

You all need to stop infantilizing women and catering to their rabid victim complex. They may have to go through things like that, but they are also in general only half as likely to be assaulted than men.
There is no justification in obsessing over such or putting priority to it over other matters. All it is, for the thousandth time, is you all simply being sucked into their. damn. agenda.
Let it sink in.
 

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Everybody knows, and the one's who do so anyway do not care.
Actually, no. Many young men simply aren't knowledgeable about it, especially as consent relates to impairment.

And
-being groped is not life altering
-sexual innuendo is not life altering
-regretting a decision to have sex is not life altering
Well, none of those are rape, but you don't get to decide what impact any of those has for someone else. You aren't qualified in any sense to make that call.

You all need to stop infantilizing women and catering to their rabid victim complex.
You need a semblance of rationality.

They may have to go through things like that
They'll be much more likely to go through things like that if people like you make the rules. Fortunately, you don't.

but they are also in general only half as likely to be assaulted than men.
We're talking about sexual assault, so stop moving the goal posts. Men aren't nearly as likely to be raped in their lifetime. A woman has a 1 in 5 chance of being raped during her lifetime. 1 in 33 men will experience an attempted or completed sexual assault in theirs. (Rainn.org)

There is no justification in obsessing over such or putting priority to it over other matters.
Education isn't obsession. And ignorance is no longer an excuse.
 

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You don't encourage them to do anything about rape, you just join them in telling people not to rape :chuckle:

If anybody is a danger to women, it's you hombre. That is, after their own selves- they must like victimhood to be so unwilling to do anything about rape- it's like standing in front of a stampede and demanding the horses to stop :wave:

By all means fee free to do the latter yourself. You'd make more sense afterwards.

I sincerely hope you don't go anywhere near any women or have the opportunity to.
 

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Actually, no. Many young men simply aren't knowledgeable about it, especially as consent relates to impairment.

A man doesn't have to 'learn' what rape is anymore than a woman.

That's why I think you all are nothing more than emasculated, brainwashed people :rolleyes:

Well, none of those are rape, but you don't get to decide what impact any of those has for someone else. You aren't qualified in any sense to make that call.

I am qualified to call any woman who talks about overcoming some experience with having been groped a conceited, manipulating Jezebel.

Deal with it.

They'll be much more likely to go through things like that if people like you make the rules. Fortunately, you don't.

Hey, moron- they are happening all the time going by your rules :wave:

We're talking about sexual assault, so stop moving the goal posts. Men aren't nearly as likely to be raped in their lifetime. A woman has a 1 in 5 chance of being raped during her lifetime. 1 in 33 men will experience an attempted or completed sexual assault in theirs. (Rainn.org)

The 1 in 5 chance thing is an abysmal myth that has been debunked over and over again. The fact of the matter is, like the 'wage gap' and everything else, you all are so OBSESSED with feminism that you are INCAPABLE of letting it go. Men are twice as likely to be assaulted- real assault, not somebody's elbow touching your breast.

When you call anything sexual assault, you can make up any number. In fact, that's what those people did :AMR:
I'd expect a person who's made a career of making spit balls look like tossed bricks to not like such realities being told.

Your bullcrap has been carried on for so long that women are now at the point of straight walking up to random strangers with a camera and declaring they are sexually assaulting them simply for the attention. They use it to harass, and even as a weapon now because they have been given the privilege to be taken by their word without question.

And ignorance is no longer an excuse.

You all are the excuse. The very sad excuse who cannot pride their masculinity anymore than a white guy at a Clinton rally :wave:
 

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A man doesn't have to 'learn' what rape is anymore than a woman.
Another goal post move by Cruc. Everyone knows what rape is, but a good number of people have wrong ideas about what consent is and can find themselves in life altering trouble without clarification.

That's why I think you all are nothing more than emasculated, brainwashed people
Only the profoundly ignorant and hostile find knowledge threatening or emasculating.

I am qualified to call any woman who talks about overcoming some experience with having been groped a conceited, manipulating Jezebel.
Qualified? No, you confuse liberty with grasp. Rather, you're free to do so. You're free to have a conversation with your toaster, too.

Deal with it.
So far so good.

Hey, moron- they are happening all the time going by your rules
Rules and laws are like trespass signs. They mostly keep people from making uninformed errors and set the stage for punishment regarding the rest.

The 1 in 5 chance thing is an abysmal myth that has been debunked over and over again.
No it hasn't, though the figure on men is low, depending on your source. Here's another 1 in 5 from the Justice Department: 1 in 5 college age women will be sexually assaulted. (link) A lot of that ties into drinking/partying and error relating to consent, which is why so many colleges are instituting awareness campaigns.

Men are twice as likely to be assaulted- real assault, not somebody's elbow touching your breast.
Again, the point was rape. Men are much more likely to be assaulted. They're also much more likely to assault, as they are much more likely to rape. Neither of those have much to do with consent.

When you call anything sexual assault, you can make up any number.
Sexual assault isn't a mystery or a subjective litmus established by any particular offended individual. It's an operation of law.

I'd expect a person who's made a career of making spit balls look like tossed bricks to not like such realities being told.
Demonstrating, again, that you never let complete ignorance of a subject slow you down.

Your bullcrap has been carried on for so long that women are now at the point of straight walking up to random strangers with a camera and declaring they are sexually assaulting them simply for the attention.
You ride unicorns through the woods crying, "The feminists are coming! The feminists are coming!"

Or, if you want to cite to studies in authority, with objectively established particulars, go to it. Otherwise you're just telling a story and hoping people as uniformed and angry buy in.

They use it to harass, and even as a weapon now because they have been given the privilege to be taken by their word without question.
Complete nonsense resting on the back of a turtle.

You all are the excuse. The very sad excuse who cannot pride their masculinity anymore than a white guy at a Clinton rally
Those sentences underscore your problem in every meaningful sense: a demonstrable lack of education.
 

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Another goal post move by Cruc. Everyone knows what rape is, but a good number of people have wrong ideas about what consent is and can find themselves in life altering trouble without clarification.

Women don't have the patent on what consent is. They are not vicars among us.

Only the profoundly ignorant and hostile find knowledge threatening or emasculating.

The modern man is taught to suppress their masculinity and women to embrace their femininity. It's social emasculation by it's very nature, hombre.

Rules and laws are like trespass signs. They mostly keep people from making uninformed errors and set the stage for punishment regarding the rest.

Natural law dictates that if you are of a sexual species and are young and healthy, the opposite sex may try to take liberties. That is how the entire animal kingdom is, and no amount of laws stops it.

You all are depending solely on a superficial abstract to deter victimization, and calling any further action 'misogynistic' or otherwise some injustice to their 'liberty'. It's like getting mad at guardrails for deterring your liberty to jump off a bridge.

No it hasn't, though the figure on men is low, depending on your source. Here's another 1 in 5 from the Justice Department: 1 in 5 college age women will be sexually assaulted. (link) A lot of that ties into drinking/partying and error relating to consent, which is why so many colleges are instituting awareness campaigns.

It's a myth, buddy. You can throw all the statistics you want, they have no more validity than the one's on wage gap. It's a claim that college feminists went with and it was appropriately thrashed by people without their ridiculous agenda. They all push lies, there is not one single truth that feminists perpetuate.

Again, the point was rape. Men are much more likely to be assaulted.

Assault is assault. You want to cater to the idea that being raped is worse then being beat and stabbed, then go ahead. I prefer reality :wave:
 

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Women don't have the patent on what consent is.
So it's a good thing I haven't once championed that cause. The law, on the other hand, establishes consent. And given the admission within your statement that human beings can and will tend to define through their lens of experience and bias else, the law is a better foundation for a shared understanding.

The modern man is taught to suppress their masculinity
No, only the worst impulses that arise from it. The ones that lead to a violation of someone else's rights.

and women to embrace their femininity.
Rather, women and men are free to embrace any identity that suits them and emphasize whatever they feel is inherently valuable about it, subject to the caveat of interfering with another's rights.

It's social emasculation by it's very nature, hombre.
Only to the criminal.

Natural law dictates that if you are of a sexual species and are young and healthy, the opposite sex may try to take liberties. That is how the entire animal kingdom is, and no amount of laws stops it.
Animals kill one another without courts, take from one another whatever they desire and are capable of taking. That your idea of a social order too?

Also natural: infections that lead to death.

You all are depending solely on a superficial abstract to deter victimization
Knowledge isn't a superficial abstract. Neither is the law.

and calling any further action 'misogynistic' or otherwise some injustice to their 'liberty'.
No. I'd call rape and assault criminal. Those acts, by definition, work a harm to right and liberty.


It's like getting mad at guardrails for deterring your liberty to jump off a bridge.
That's mostly what you're doing, being angry at people who are attempting to keep you from doing harm, though your analogy fails on the whole by only considering the impulse of the actor and not the crowd of people walking under the bridge.

It's a myth, buddy. You can throw all the statistics you want, they have no more validity than the one's on wage gap.
Objectively, demonstrably untrue. And that's part of your problem. If someone won't accept fact and examineable methodology and data there are only two reasons for it: they're ignorant of how to utilize rational methodology or they understand its impact on their bias and reject it as a means to preserve their part. Neither will impress or convince anyone who values reason.

Assault is assault.
And rape is rape, with assault a lesser included offense within the legal charge.

You want to cater to the idea that being raped is worse then being beat and stabbed, then go ahead. I prefer reality
Supra, to some extent. Or, the law recognizes that all crimes are not equal. All violations of right are not equal. Rape is objectively worse than getting a punch on the snook, by way of. And you know this, even if your position forces you to attempt to deny it. Given a choice by a violent, angry individual capable of enforcing it, between being raped by him or taking a solid, painful punch to the jaw, you would by no means be indifferent or ambiguous about it.
 

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Objectively, demonstrably untrue. And that's part of your problem. If someone won't accept fact and examineable methodology and data there are only two reasons for it: they're ignorant of how to utilize rational methodology or they understand its impact on their bias and reject it as a means to preserve their part. Neither will impress or convince anyone who values reason.

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/n...een-raped-on-college-campuses/article/2551980

Here's some perfectly wells stated information about your supposed statistic :wave2:
 

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http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/n...een-raped-on-college-campuses/article/2551980

Here's some perfectly wells stated information about your supposed statistic :wave2:
Well, that was lazy of you. Just drop a link and wave. :plain:

Where to begin...the statement I made wasn't that 1 in 5 college women have been raped. So the article isn't applicable at the outset. My posit, with link in support and not in lieu, was particular and had you bothered to move from that posit to that link you would have encountered this opening line:

One in five female undergraduates have experienced some kind of sexual assault while in college,​
according to a new study of students at nine institutions released Wednesday by the Bureau of Justice Statistics.


Additionally, my statistic was one published in January of 2016. Your link was to an article written in 2014.

So I hope all that waving was your effort to fan away the odor associated with your response that wasn't much of one.
 

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Well, that was lazy of you. Just drop a link and wave. :plain:

Where to begin...the statement I made wasn't that 1 in 5 college women have been raped. So the article isn't applicable at the outset. My posit, with link in support and not in lieu, was particular and had you bothered to move from that posit to that link you would have encountered this opening line:

One in five female undergraduates have experienced some kind of sexual assault while in college,​
according to a new study of students at nine institutions released Wednesday by the Bureau of Justice Statistics.


Additionally, my statistic was one published in January of 2016. Your link was to an article written in 2014.

So I hope all that waving was your effort to fan away the odor associated with your response that wasn't much of one.

They rehash the same lie over and over again, just like with the wage gap. Despite that there are many articles which outright express that these things repeated things have been debunked over and over, it does not stop them from recycling.

It's popular to give a handout to women, just as it is with minorities- it was 'fad morality' that's now become something like a social religion, which hopefully will desist with the Trump years to come :)

White men are tired of being tread on by these ridiculous agendas- men have been preyed on by them and you all ignore it. Women turning a blind eye is out of spite, but other men doing it is just plain sad.
 

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Nope. The facts are there in the report, linked both in the article and in my snippet.

Take care. :e4e:

1 in 5 women are not sexually assaulted, but believe the agenda fueled statistics- there are many articles that debunk it.
You all are just obsessed and paranoid, and are incapable of accepting anything contrary to whatever they frankly want you to think.

In your case,
you just can't admit when you're wrong is all.
 

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1 in 5 women are not sexually assaulted, but believe the agenda fueled statistics- there are many articles that debunk it.
You all are just obsessed and paranoid, and are incapable of accepting anything contrary to whatever they frankly want you to think.
Present facts and he notes that the internet, of all places, can provide someone willing to swear that cigarettes don't have a thing to do with cancer and the DOJ is just wildly mistaken.

Do tell.

In your case, you just can't admit when you're wrong is all.
To the contrary, I was wrong to spend most of the time I've spent on the subject with you when the facts had already been set out sufficient to establish the point by both reason and authority. Completely my fault for giving you a forum for your continuing bouts of misinformation and hostility mongering. In my defense, you're funny and it really was a slow day about the joint.

On the bright side, if I'm allowed to use that in conjunction with your efforts, thanks for providing today's winner...essentially any post you've written here on the topic.

:first:

Congrats.
 

Arthur Brain

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Women don't have the patent on what consent is. They are not vicars among us.



The modern man is taught to suppress their masculinity and women to embrace their femininity. It's social emasculation by it's very nature, hombre.



Natural law dictates that if you are of a sexual species and are young and healthy, the opposite sex may try to take liberties. That is how the entire animal kingdom is, and no amount of laws stops it.

You all are depending solely on a superficial abstract to deter victimization, and calling any further action 'misogynistic' or otherwise some injustice to their 'liberty'. It's like getting mad at guardrails for deterring your liberty to jump off a bridge.



It's a myth, buddy. You can throw all the statistics you want, they have no more validity than the one's on wage gap. It's a claim that college feminists went with and it was appropriately thrashed by people without their ridiculous agenda. They all push lies, there is not one single truth that feminists perpetuate.



Assault is assault. You want to cater to the idea that being raped is worse then being beat and stabbed, then go ahead. I prefer reality :wave:

Which roughly translated means:

Blah blah blah blah blah I hate women blah blah blah :wave2:

Blah blah blah where's me dinner at? Oh, I've gotta cook it myself blah blah :mmph: blah blah blah, Aarg, I've just stubbed me toe, bloody feminists! Blah blah blah blah blah blah blah! :)

Blah blah blah blah gosh I'm so clever blah blah blah blah my word, I've just seen a woman expose her wrist, the harlot! :nono: Blah blah blah blah :rolleyes:
 

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Woman makes an attempt on a man's livelihood by making false allegations: "Misogynist (for bringing it up)"

Man calls a slandering, loudmouth slattern a pig: "Misogyny (you spoke against a woman)"

Making a post to AB or TH about it: "Misogyny (we're sock puppets with feminist hands up our buns)"

:chuckle:
Making a post about anything: "Misogyny" (also see: bigoted, racist, homophobic, xenophobic).


No matter how one tries to tackle the issue, you will be called a 'misogynist' if it doesn't directly uphold women :rolleyes:
 

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Woman makes an attempt on a man's livelihood by making false allegations: "Misogynist (for bringing it up)"
Misogynist creates a fantasy scenario to condemn women at large.

Man calls a slandering, loudmouth slattern a pig: "Misogyny (you spoke against a woman)"
And his assumptive, powdered wig falls off.

Making a post to AB or TH about it:
Too narrow. You make exactly the same post to everyone, regardless of what they post...you probably respond like this when a waitress asks if you want more coffee.

"Misogyny (we're sock puppets with feminist hands up our buns)"
Well, as long as you keep your head where it is no ol feminist will ever be able to squeeze one in there on you. :plain:

No matter how one tries to tackle the issue, you will be called a 'misogynist' if it doesn't directly uphold women
You have to come up with more than the one way for that one to work.

Brand new day/same ol winner. :plain:
 

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Misogynist creates a fantasy scenario to condemn women at large.

Not categorizing actual events as fantasy: Misogyny

And his assumptive, powdered wig falls off.

Powdered wigs: Misogyny

Too narrow. You make exactly the same post to everyone, regardless of what they post...you probably respond like this when a waitress asks if you want more coffee.

Asking a waitress for coffee: Misogyny

You have to come up with more than the one way for that one to work.

~Do you even not misogyny, bro~

Brand new day/same ol winner. :plain:

The Sun is misogynistic. Bleeds makeup.
 

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Not categorizing actual events as fantasy: Misogyny
Pretending you have facts/events you can't reproduce/link to: fantasy.

Using that fantasy to demean and attack women at large: misogyny.

Powdered wigs: Misogyny
If the people wearing them just decided the Mrs. can't vote.

Asking a waitress for coffee: Misogyny
If a profane pronoun is used instead of her name or job title.

~Do you even not misogyny, bro~
So you're saying your misogyny began with an elementary school English teacher?

The Sun is misogynistic. Bleeds makeup.
Bad poetry Yahtzee!
 
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