Matthew 12:40

rstrats

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daqq,

re: "There are indeed three yamim written in the scripture, (which are always unfortunately and mistakenly translated "three days"), wherein the statements have nothing to do with three twelve hour days and three twelve hour nights or three twenty-four hour days and nights."


That's an issue for a different topic.
 

rstrats

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daqq,

re: "...if we are both still around, and this forum is still here, see you in another five years."

Only if examples are not provided by then.
 

rstrats

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clefty,
re: "Ok so if examples are not provided then what does that mean?"


It would mean that no one visiting this topic who is a 6th day of the week crucifixion believer and tries to explain the lack of a 3rd night time by saying that the Messiah was using common figure of speech/colloquial language has any support for making the assertion that it was common usage.
 

clefty

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clefty,
re: "Ok so if examples are not provided then what does that mean?"


It would mean that no one visiting this topic who is a 6th day of the week crucifixion believer and tries to explain the lack of a 3rd night time by saying that the Messiah was using common figure of speech/colloquial language has any support for making the assertion that it was common usage.

And now please how do you solve it?
 

rstrats

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clefty,
re: "And now please how do you solve it?"

I guess the only thing I can do is continue to wait in case someone new looks in who is a 6th day of the week crucifixion believer who tries to explain the lack of a 3rd night time by saying that the Messiah was using common figure of speech/colloquial language.
 

rstrats

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Maybe someone new visiting this topic who believes the Messiah died on the 6th day of the week and who thinks He was using common figure of speech/colloquial language in Matthew 12:40 might know of examples to support the idea of commonality.
 

genuineoriginal

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This is what the early Christian church believed that the three days and three nights meant:

ANF01. The Apostolic Fathers with Justin Martyr and Irenaeus
The Epistle of Ignatius to the Trallians
Shorter and Longer Versions
Chapter IX.—Reference to the history of Christ.
~ 107 CE


On the day of the preparation, then, at the third hour, He received the sentence from Pilate, the Father permitting that to happen; at the sixth hour He was crucified; at the ninth hour He gave up the ghost; and before sunset He was buried. During the Sabbath He continued under the earth in the tomb in which Joseph of Arimathæa had laid Him. At the dawning of the Lord’s day He arose from the dead, according to what was spoken by Himself, “As Jonah was three days and three nights in the whale’s belly, so shall the Son of man also be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth.” The day of the preparation, then, comprises the passion; the Sabbath embraces the burial; the Lord’s Day contains the resurrection.

 

rstrats

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genuineoriginal,
re: "This is what the early Christian church believed that the three days and three nights meant:"

That would be an issue for a different topic.
 

clefty

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This is what the early Christian church believed that the three days and three nights meant:

ANF01. The Apostolic Fathers with Justin Martyr and Irenaeus
The Epistle of Ignatius to the Trallians
Shorter and Longer Versions
Chapter IX.—Reference to the history of Christ.
~ 107 CE


On the day of the preparation, then, at the third hour, He received the sentence from Pilate, the Father permitting that to happen; at the sixth hour He was crucified; at the ninth hour He gave up the ghost; and before sunset He was buried. During the Sabbath He continued under the earth in the tomb in which Joseph of Arimathæa had laid Him. At the dawning of the Lord’s day He arose from the dead, according to what was spoken by Himself, “As Jonah was three days and three nights in the whale’s belly, so shall the Son of man also be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth.” The day of the preparation, then, comprises the passion; the Sabbath embraces the burial; the Lord’s Day contains the resurrection.


Thing is...He was risen that first day...but was also risen the next day...and is still risen today

What happened that morning of the first day was that the tomb was discovered ALREADY EMPTY...He had risen the day before...on the Sabbath...that day He was asleep (dead) rested and was refreshed healed...on the Sabbath a day He healed 7 times in His ministry to restore the healing of Sabbath and foreshadow His own healing on that first full day of the New Covenant age...

Oh and Jonah was not dead...but prayed to be delivered from this watery grave knowing he had seaweed on his head...the dead know nothing...

Jonah however was confined for 3 days 3 nights...Yahushua too was confined from the time Judas took the money to the time He rose on Sabbath...paid for, arrested, tried, crucified and died...3 days 3 nights confined in the heart of the world...Jerusalem...near the temple mount
 

rstrats

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clefty,
re: "Thing is...He was risen that first day...but was also risen the next day...and is still risen today"

That would be an issue for a different topic.
 
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