Jewish magic or mystical Kabbalah practices

Epoisses

Epoisses

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It's important to note that the message of the antichrist and the message of Dispy's are virtually the same. Dispy's worship Israel so any grace gospel they preach is just superficial and impotent. The spell of John Darby still controls them and few will ever escape it.
 
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daqq

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Originally Posted by Epoisses

I know that you and Daqq the UFO hunter are cutoff from grace.
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The grace of Elohim is not to "abolish" His own Torah and Word, no, but rather the grace of Elohim is to explain and expound His Torah and Word so that those who desire to know Him may understand His Torah-Word and walk in it in uprightness and truth without fear. Those who truly seek to understand the Living Oracles and Words of Elohim in the Torah are therefore supremely blessed beyond what words can even describe. But those who despise the Torah only curse themselves by their own hatred for the Word of the Father; and if they continue claiming to be representatives of Elohim while in fact they greatly misrepresent Him by their false teachings, (which is taking His name in vain), they will end up being given strong delusion for their lawlessness, just as Paul warns. You are calling people "antichrists" and sons of perdition while in fact Paul tells you that such a one is called "HO ANOMOS", (ο ανομος), and that is "the lawless-Torahless one". Here it is again:

2 Thessalonians 2:3-12
3 let no man beguile you in any wise: for it will not be, except the falling away come first, and the man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition,
4 he that opposeth and exalteth himself against all that is called God or that is worshipped; so that he sitteth in the temple of God, setting himself forth as God.
5 Remember ye not, that, when I was yet with you, I told you these things?
6 And now ye know that which restraineth, to the end that he may be revealed in his own season.
7 For the mystery of lawlessness doth already work: only there is one that restraineth now, until he be taken out of the way.
8 And then shall be revealed the lawless one, [ο ανομος] whom the Lord Jesus shall slay with the breath of his mouth, and bring to nought by the manifestation of his coming;
9 even he, whose coming is according to the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders,
10 and with all deceit of unrighteousness for them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.
11 And for this cause God sendeth them a working of error, ["strong delusion" KJV] that they should believe a lie:
12 that they all might be judged who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.

You yourself practice and preach the very things Paul is rebuking and railing against in this passage: and while you do so you are at the same time falsely accusing those who actually believe and honor the Word of the Father as being "antichrists" simply because they do not agree with your utterly lawless doctrine! :rotfl:
 
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Wick Stick

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Epoisses said:
Jewish magic is a reference to mystical Kabbalah practices where the Old testament is used in such a way to nullify or make void the grace-based teaching of the New Testament. A wizard who casts spells is someone with arguments that are so convincing that they cause others to reject Christ and grace and the gospel. Jacob and Daqq on this forum are examples of people who have been 'taken down' by these practices and are actively spreading Torah observance. Dispensational beliefs are also an example of this dark art where all mention of spiritual Israel is seen as the highest sin. John Darby was a wizard or sorcerer. Those Christians who adhere to his beliefs come under the power of his spells and rarely if ever break free. Ellen White is also an excellent example of a sorceress who used the OT Sabbath to defeat the NT gospel. Her followers number in the millions today.
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You're kind of a nutter, aren't you? Some sort of persecution complex?

What if I told you that the person who sabotages you... is you?
 
Epoisses

Epoisses

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daqq said:
You yourself practice and preach the very things Paul is rebuking and railing against in this passage: and while you do so you are at the same time falsely accusing those who actually believe and honor the Word of the Father as being "antichrists" simply because they do not agree with your utterly lawless doctrine! :rotfl:
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Paul preached the gospel Daqq! Not the defunct Torah. You're not a Christian, at best you're some kind of Messianic Jew - just admit it.
 
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daqq

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Epoisses said:
Paul preached the gospel Daqq! Not the defunct Torah. You're not a Christian, at best you're some kind of Messianic Jew - just admit it.
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Hmmm, the stark difference between you and Paul, (and pretty much everyone in first century Israel), is that the Apostles and Paul, and pretty much everyone in first century Israel, thought of it as LOVE for the Father to give us the instructions and teachings of His Word to walk and live by. You think of it as evil.
 
Zeke

Zeke

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Epoisses said:
I just read your post on the temple thread and you are farther gone than I previously thought.
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Until you can present empirical proof then your the one under the religious trance/magic dust, looking for the eternal kingdom in the past or future is the secular minded christian's paradox that you hope is true, Revelation is the only method that the Spirit uses to unveil the letter 2Cor 3:6.

The historic trance has warped your perception of justice, it certainly matches your deities insane requirements for such a short life span to be weighed against eternity, don't think to long on that one you might wake up.
 
Zeke

Zeke

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Epoisses said:
Paul preached the gospel Daqq! Not the defunct Torah. You're not a Christian, at best you're some kind of Messianic Jew - just admit it.
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Count how many times Paul quotes from the OT in Romans alone, those allegorical stories (Galatians 4:24) are Paul's foundation concerning the way of the Spirit and the states of conscience they represent.
 
Epoisses

Epoisses

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Zeke said:
Count how many times Paul quotes from the OT in Romans alone, those allegorical stories (Galatians 4:24) are Paul's foundation concerning the way of the Spirit and the states of conscience they represent.
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The OT was the only written word at the time and his audience were mostly Jews! We don't live in those days anymore and the Law is a curse to any believer who tries to keep it. Law keeping is a rejection of Christ, read Galatians.
 
Epoisses

Epoisses

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Zeke said:
Until you can present empirical proof then your the one under the religious trance/magic dust, looking for the eternal kingdom in the past or future is the secular minded christian's paradox that you hope is true, Revelation is the only method that the Spirit uses to unveil the letter 2Cor 3:6.

The historic trance has warped your perception of justice, it certainly matches your deities insane requirements for such a short life span to be weighed against eternity, don't think to long on that one you might wake up.
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You were put under the spell of John Darby from birth, thank your parents for that.
 
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daqq

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However I keep wondering if Epoisses is ever actually going to talk about his thread topic?
 
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