He who is not against us is with us.
Repeating a LIE does not make it become true.
ONE being (God), three PERSONS (Father, Son and Holy Spirit).
The TRUTH will always fight against ERROR (error is you).
No actually sons of God means sons of God. Funny that, you guys can be so anal retentive when it comes to specific words when it suits your argument but when it doesn't you just convert sons to angels.
Scripture says not to be quick in joining evil. Have you READ the Urantia Book thread??? Your hasty judgement and shallow pool of assessment has incredibly stark problematics.
Of course they do but so do demons. Your 'universalism' is showing where there is need for careful parsing. Urantians deny the atonement, deny the need for salvation and lie after lie, including blasphemy against the nature of Christ are exploited and expanded within the confines of those papers. Search "Lon" in the Urantia thread. I point out many of them in clarity. Urantia is an attack upon Christ and Christianity. Fact.
That just sounds like yet another Noncatholic Christian tradition to me. You all are "an attack upon" the Church. There's the actual Christian faith, the one taught by Christ and His Apostles, the one passed down through the ages by the men holding the office specifically instituted to preserve this faith, and there's literally everything else. Among the 'everything else' is gnosticism, Urantia, Calvin, Luther, JW, Mormons, etc.
You show a genuine lack of discernment. Creeds mean anything to you?
Incorrect. You called him a Christian. He is not. Read and be informed instead of this poor excusing behavior.
This isn’t a thread about the UB but Lon largely misrepresents the book, he has been nasty towards me from the beginning on this forum.
@Caino is an authentic Christian if Caino believes in Christ and in His Resurrection. Caino has already agreed that the Resurrection really happened. By hook or by crook if Caino believes in Christ, then Caino is an authentic Christian, just as I believe that you are, and that I am.:doh: I really cannot speak with you when you can't even be reasoned with. You go ahead and become a Urantian
The Late Great Urantia Revelation
GM is just a tool... according to my perception of the Woodshed's response to his trolling, that is.theologyonline.com
You show a genuine lack of discernment. Creeds mean anything to you?
Incorrect. You called him a Christian. He is not. Read and be informed instead of this poor excusing behavior.
It is rationalizing/logicking your way through your faith. Nowhere, where I want to be Caino. If it isn't from Him, I want no part in rationalizations.
Acts 19:13 Some Jews who went around driving out evil spirits tried to invoke the name of the Lord Jesus over those who were demon-possessed. They would say, “In the name of the Jesus whom Paul preaches, I command you to come out.” 14 Seven sons of Sceva, a Jewish chief priest, were doing this. 15 One day the evil spirit answered them, “Jesus I know, and Paul I know about, but who are you?” 16 Then the man who had the evil spirit jumped on them and overpowered them all. He gave them such a beating that they ran out of the house naked and bleeding.
No, and you are remiss for stating it. I gave you the thread and the many many problems and outright attacks on Christ (My Savior, at least if not yours that you care to defend). CLEARLY you are mal-informed regarding Urantia claims to EVER consider one a Christian. No, not at all, Idol-ater (should I have known with "Idol" in your name?). The Urantia book flat out, rejects and denies worship of the Son. IF you had bothered to read the link, you'd have seen these "Christians" (in your warped mind) blasphemying Spirit and Son. YOU'D HAVE SEEN IT, Idol-ater! Nope, you want to extend that friendly (Idolatrous?) hand. : Plain:
AND this isn't one of them Idolater! Wake up!
I don't really care to banter over it with you. It isn't this thread.
Your belief on this isn't germane to this thread.
AND none of His saving work! He flat out denies a 'need' for a Savior. This just shows your complete ignorance of Urantia doctrine. You'd be WISE to close your mouth and come back here AFTER you've read a bit of it. They DO attack Christ, Christians, and His salvation unabashedly. It is new Age "We don't need a Savior" we are gods already, doctrine. GO READ it! You are looking blind, ignorant, and foolish for knowing absolutely nothing about their denials and blasphemies, yet calling them 'Christian.'
Yet YOU seem to disregard them when calling men Christians, who, CLEARLY by Catholic parameters (and Reformed/Evangelical), are not.
It isn't to 'suit' an argument. There are words translated "sons" (uios-Greek ben-Hebrew) and angels (aggelos-Greek malak-Hebrew).
The argument was over "Only Begotten." Were you begotten? Of course you were. SOoooo Either it was a lie in scripture OR "ONLY BEGOTTEN" means something important (and it does). Urantia diminishes and obliterates clear scripture teaching 'in favor' of preferred ideas that are carnal/of the flesh. BECAUSE of a preference of fleshly ideals, the Urantia eliminates the uniqueness and deity of Christ in favor of you, in flesh and sin, not needing or wanting a Savior. You've diminished the cross to barbarism and Christianity to brutish backwoods neanderthal as if you are the 'enlightened' one. You literally toss out scripture portions and 'let' some doctor with 'sensibilities' akin to your own carnality, rewrite God-very-God, in favor of YOUR (fleshly) enlightenment. You have a thread that is supposed to contain all this Urantia humanistic philosophy from spilling out into other threads (perhaps why you were banned again).