Is The Physical Realm Analogous To A Simulated Reality?

VladtheDestroyer

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This has been a delightful conversation, Vlad. Just wanted get that out there.

I think so also. Thank you.

I don't think we understand what the nonphysical part of man really is.

Well sure! Sometimes we have to use our imagination and then test it with the scriptures to see whether our idea is consistent with what the Bible teaches. I hope I wasn't giving the impression that I am trying to do somethings else besides that. Or that I have a perfect understanding of all of these things or that it would be impossible for me to be wrong about something I have said.


I agree that its is unlikely that DNA is going to contain that information, else identical twins would have identical souls/spirits. But I don't think the spirit needs to be the entity sans body. Rather the body cannot function without God's spirit, which can be thought of as a life-giving force (not necessarily the same as God's Holy Spirit).

You'll have to elaborate on that, as I don't understand your gripe.

I think creationists focus too much on the physical part of us. If we focused our arguments more on the mind and our non-physical selves, I feel our arguments would be more intuitive.

I don't see that 'acceptance' as a one-time act, but more as a change in attitude that persists forever, even into the next realm. But yes, the start of that is the most important thing.

That's a good way to put. I agree.
 

VladtheDestroyer

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You don't think Peter was saying that David, being a prophet, was not talking about himself, but about Christ? And the evidence he presents is that David (not just his body, but David the person) is still dead and buried?Therefore the passage couldn't be about David, since it talks of not being left to corruption (turning back to dust) and not being left in sheol/hades (the grave). And David was still in the corrupted and grave-bound condition.

I agree that the point of Peter's message here is that David is dead, so David surely wasn't talking about himself. He was talking about the coming Messiah. I don't see how this precludes the idea that our spirits go to the Lord when we die. I don't think Peter is saying "Jesus is the Messiah David wrote about + BTW our spirits go to the grave when we die"
Though by now we are probably speaking past each other a bit. By grave I mean soul sleep.
 
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