annabenedetti
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You could vote for her with a clean conscience under the principle of double effect. This was explained to me by a priest whom I trust, and he made perfect sense.
I will not vote for trump
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You could vote for her with a clean conscience under the principle of double effect. This was explained to me by a priest whom I trust, and he made perfect sense.
A vote for Clinton is a vote for Secular Humanism that supports the killing of unborn babies.
annabenedetti
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I would have agreed with you once upon a time, until the GOP held both the White House and Congress and did nothing with that opportunity. Now, I don't think it matters at all anymore, I realized the GOP was only giving lip service in exchange for votes. Now I'll vote for the lesser evil, because I don't think anything will change one way or the other regarding abortion if Hillary is in the White House. I don't like her, she's been involved in a lot of underhanded politics - but I think Trump will be worse. He's a loose cannon, and I'm going with what I know.
BTW I voted for Bernie in the primary.
I voted for Carson. Now it is down to who is the least worst. I see the Secular Humanists continuing to attack Christian values and I see Trump as neutral on religion.
annabenedetti
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Back in 2008 when I was still a Republican, I voted for Duncan Hunter for President in the primary. I knew he wouldn't win, he'd already been thrown under the bus by not only the GOP establishment but the entire conservative media. You might say that was when I started realizing I'd been conned. Anyway. He was my conscience vote at the time.
Now his son holds his congressional seat, and when he endorsed Trump early on, my response was to not vote for Hunter Jr. I knew I wouldn't make a difference this time either - Jr. holds a legacy seat and he's not likely to be going anywhere - but eight years later, it was my conscience (non)vote.
Yes, it is down to the least worst. And I think the least worst is Hillary.
I am fed up with both major parties. We clearly see the two candidates differently and I won't continue after this. My concern is that with Clinton, there will be increasing attacks on Christian values and most in the US will be OK with this. I do expect Clinton to win unless the FBI finds evidence of Top Secret, Special Access Program emails.
annabenedetti
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Fair enough, I appreciate the exchange of views. As a last thought, please remember that a good portion of our country isn't Christian, and they deserve the same rights and protections under the law as Christians. We all share the same constitution.
I agree and think that the majority in this country are not Christian.In my view,the barna polls that show only ~10% in the US with a Biblical worldview are about right.
this is true any time you vote for a democrat
In my opinion, most Democrats are Secular Humanists, but there are also Secular Humanists in the GOP.
musterion
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Many of whom, on both sides, maintain a veneer of religion -- Catholic, protestant, Jewish, Mormon, even Muslim. But they're all Uniparty.
musterion
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Notice how the media is now trying to spin Carson as anti-2A?
The insider power brokers( Bush, Clinton, etc.) do band together to maintain their power base. 'Uniparty' is a new term to me, but it fits.
I had not noticed. Thanks
what is that?
a typical mad response
I think it's anti 2nd Amendment
thanks for reminding me what a waste of time it is to ask a mad person a question