alwight
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There are dozens of versions of the Bible all available on line but no I don't have one. Which of them is your favourite and why?
Creation vs. Evolution
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illusionray
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haha Walaykum
Dear Alwight,
My favorite version is the KJV. Not the NKJV. The King James Version is safer. The New King James Version misinterprets certain words and changes the whole meanings of the verses. I'm willing to help you learn if you want. Your whole life depends on it and you matter!!
God Bless You Tons,
Michael
My favorite version is the KJV. Not the NKJV. The King James Version is safer. The New King James Version misinterprets certain words and changes the whole meanings of the verses. I'm willing to help you learn if you want. Your whole life depends on it and you matter!!
God Bless You Tons,
Michael
Dear illusionray,
Not for me. It's Aleikum! Also, I am half Lebanese. Wallah.
God Be With You,
Michael
Not for me. It's Aleikum! Also, I am half Lebanese. Wallah.
God Be With You,
Michael
freelight
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In defense of the NKJV
In defense of the NKJV
Hi Michael,
You will find Bob Jones does a great job to defend the integrity and accuracy of the NKJV here. (I find most of the KJV only logics and defenses.... blown up, exaggerated and stupid really. This defense of all the supposed 'corruptions' of the NKJV should clear up unnecessary hype or concerns, pushed mostly by KJV only folks)
I LOVE my giant print center column reference Thomas Nelson NKJV bible, great for study...having all the variant manuscript readings for controversial passages. As in all things, be diligent to research, and keep researching the truth.
In defense of the NKJV
Hi Michael,
You will find Bob Jones does a great job to defend the integrity and accuracy of the NKJV here. (I find most of the KJV only logics and defenses.... blown up, exaggerated and stupid really. This defense of all the supposed 'corruptions' of the NKJV should clear up unnecessary hype or concerns, pushed mostly by KJV only folks)
I LOVE my giant print center column reference Thomas Nelson NKJV bible, great for study...having all the variant manuscript readings for controversial passages. As in all things, be diligent to research, and keep researching the truth.
Dear freelight,
Oh well, he can have his NKJV. Frankly, I've noticed certain words translated into some other words and they are found lacking the same meaning that was meant. I notice this very rarely on certain scriptures that I've had explained to me by my guardian angel, thus, the Lord God through my angel. It really matters sometimes. I noticed it happened not too long ago. Maybe a couple of weeks.
Oh well, most of it (NKJV) is prob. okay.
Much Love In Christ,
Michael
Oh well, he can have his NKJV. Frankly, I've noticed certain words translated into some other words and they are found lacking the same meaning that was meant. I notice this very rarely on certain scriptures that I've had explained to me by my guardian angel, thus, the Lord God through my angel. It really matters sometimes. I noticed it happened not too long ago. Maybe a couple of weeks.
Oh well, most of it (NKJV) is prob. okay.
Much Love In Christ,
Michael
alwight
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I wonder what you mean by "safer"? It seems to me that all Bible translations are probably just the best efforts of men and that the main source and style of much of the KJV was one William Tyndale, who was no doubt an extremely intelligent person, but who was ultimately deemed a heretic and executed.
What exactly were "Unicorns" found in the KJV but revised to "oxen" in the NKJV can anyone really know?
Ask your angel perhaps?
The mere fact that there are so many Bible versions shows me anyway that there is no actual truth, only the beliefs and interpretations of individual people often restricted by the conventions, culture and limitations of their time and place. People who knew that they too could easily be branded a heretic by what they wrote.
Sorry but I simply can't believe that anyone's life depends on the vagaries and personal interpretations of a collection 15th Century Biblical scholars, however well meaning.
noguru
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You have not set a good example in regard to learning things yourself, so what makes you think anyone would have confidence in your teaching ability?
Dear Alwight,
Just because it says oxen instead of unicorn, still the main gist of the book is not lost. But, yes, it is word translations like that that makes me prefer the KJV. It is a shame that the KJV is in old English, with it's thee's and thou's and hath's, etc. But I can get past all of that anyway.
Well, Alwight, you choose to do what you want. If you would like to become a Christian, I'll try to help in anyway you wish and you can also always check out a small Christian church near you, who will help you in Sunday School. It sure would be worth your while, I can tell you that.
You take good care of yourself. You have a big heart!!
My Prayers to God For You,
Michael
Just because it says oxen instead of unicorn, still the main gist of the book is not lost. But, yes, it is word translations like that that makes me prefer the KJV. It is a shame that the KJV is in old English, with it's thee's and thou's and hath's, etc. But I can get past all of that anyway.
Well, Alwight, you choose to do what you want. If you would like to become a Christian, I'll try to help in anyway you wish and you can also always check out a small Christian church near you, who will help you in Sunday School. It sure would be worth your while, I can tell you that.
You take good care of yourself. You have a big heart!!
My Prayers to God For You,
Michael
Dear noguru,
What, are you a Christian brother trying to pick a fight? That's a real shame. God watches what you do. My book is in the downtown Phoenix Library. It is called "What Your Eyes Have Not Seen" by Michael W. Cadry. Where's your book?
In Christ's Love,
Michael
What, are you a Christian brother trying to pick a fight? That's a real shame. God watches what you do. My book is in the downtown Phoenix Library. It is called "What Your Eyes Have Not Seen" by Michael W. Cadry. Where's your book?
In Christ's Love,
Michael
alwight
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So what were unicorns then if the KJV is "safer"? Surely a more modern updated version by Biblical scholars might convey the true meaning and intent than associations with what we today think of as mythical beasts?
If there were rational reasons to believe in any religion then I probably would attempt to do so, but that doesn't seem to be the case.
Thanks Michael, but I suspect prayers are what is called "One Way Transmission" in the telecoms business.
Ben Masada
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"Creation versus Evolution!" I don't see it that way. Creation is not juxtaposed to Evolution but parallel to. I see Evolution as Expansion. Since the universe could not have caused itself to exist, the Creator has become obvious and He has never ceased working with the expansion of the universe.
Once Einstein was asked if he believed in God and his answer was that his whole life was trying to catch God at His work of creation. He meant the expansion of the universe. Also, Jesus declared that God has never ceased working. I wonder if he also like Einstein had expansion in mind. I mean evolution of the universe since scientists have demonstrated that the universe does expand and at a fast pace.
Once Einstein was asked if he believed in God and his answer was that his whole life was trying to catch God at His work of creation. He meant the expansion of the universe. Also, Jesus declared that God has never ceased working. I wonder if he also like Einstein had expansion in mind. I mean evolution of the universe since scientists have demonstrated that the universe does expand and at a fast pace.
noguru
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Why do you feel that when I am honest with you I am picking a fight?
God watches what you do as well.
Hedshaker
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The Theory of Evolution is science. Creationism, or theistic evolution, or Intelligent design is religion, not science. Simple as that.
noguru
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Some people like to synthesize all aspects of what they have learned into a seemingly cohesive universal paradigm. I don't see anything wrong with that effort in itself. Though such an effort can be managed very poorly. :chuckle:
illusionray
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Hedshaker
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Of course. People can do what they want and believe what they want. It's their mind to do with as they wish. I have no issue with that as long as they don't try to indoctrinate my grand kids, else there will be hell to pay.......
What gets me a bit is this constant reference to the term "theistic evolution" as if it was a branch of science. It isn't. it's religion. There is no such thing as "theistic" evolution. There is only the scientific Theory of evolution. Nothing added.
This is why I have respect for scientists like Ken Miller who have no problem leaving their supernatural beliefs at the lab door. As it should be.
All the best.
noguru
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That includes the resurrection ladyboy
:chuckle:
Hey doofus, did you notice the qualifier "managed poorly"? That is your MO. You are a great example of what not to do/be. Thanks for the lesson.
noguru
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Of course. People can do what they want and believe what they want. It's their mind to do with as they wish. I have no issue with that as long as they don't try to indoctrinate my grand kids, else there will be hell to pay.......
What gets me a bit is this constant reference to the term "theistic evolution" as if it was a branch of science. It isn't. it's religion. There is no such thing as "theistic" evolution. There is only the scientific Theory of evolution. Nothing added.
This is why I have respect for scientists like Ken Miller who have no problem leaving their supernatural beliefs at the lab door. As it should be.
All the best.
You are right on with that. But there are theistic morons like Delusionray who constantly whine and want to get their confederate 2 cents in. I think reasonable people see right through their non-sense. People like Delusionray don't have the wits to realize the futility of their own nonsense.
Hedshaker
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Have to agree. A virgin birth or a dead guy coming back to life is no more of less believable to a sceptic than Mohamed flying to heaven on the back of a flying horse. Once you start claiming that one magic is better than another you're on shaky ground IMO.
Reality doesn't give a jot for beliefs. But when as that stopped anyone
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