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Romans 5:13 KJV — (For until the law sin was in the world: but sin is not imputed when there is no law.

Can you show how the context limits it to such? Doesn't it seem that a God who lies could be lying about whether He lies--all for perfectly righteous reasons, of course.

Priests both administer and celebrate the eucharist, right? And everybody at mass celebrates it? Paul gave a small for-instance of when it's wrong for an individual to celebrate it, and the implication some take from Paul is that the administration should be withheld in certain circumstances...

Why does that support a half truth not being a lie? Maybe I misunderstand what you mean by "half truth".

It's ok to discuss in this thread how you feel the Holy Spirit lies or doesn't lie in that or other instances.

Not to mention a bunch of people's integrity. From the Washington Examiner: ...Fauci acknowledged that he knowingly misled the public because the experts “were concerned that it was at a time when personal protective equipment, including the N95 masks and the surgical masks, were in very short...

I never said it's unnecessary--I'm not the best judge of that. What I'm saying is that what might make it necessary are circumstances where a greater evil needs to be averted, and we humans don't have the knowledge or power to always avoid the lie. That doesn't mean that lying is a good thing...

I think it's very unlikely that what they said to pharaoh was completely true, but are you suggesting that a half truth, when meant to deceive, is less a problem than a whole lie?

It's more on topic than most of this. The thread topic is asking whether God is able to lie. I started it with the idea that He doesn't lie, wondering if it's because He can't, or He won't. I didn't expect anyone to suggest that God actually does lie. Titus 1:2 KJV — In hope of eternal life...

Ok, thanks for the explanation. I understand your point. However, in making your point, you averted addressing @Hoping's point, imo. He said this: after you said this: It's similar to my point about integrity that you discuss more below. If lying isn't sin, and you're saying there needs to be...

Hey, where'd you get the picture of Joe Biden?

@Hoping's sentence was a question, and as long as it was meant as a question, it can't be false or true, but it gets to the whole point of this part of the thread--that if it's ok to lie sometimes, then integrity is out the window. No one can know whether you are lying for a good cause or...

And here all this time you guys were complimenting people on their godliness:

But that's ok, since it was for a righteous cause.

Yes, you're right.

You must mean "objectionably false", since I explained how it could be true, even if my scenario is very unlikely. The text doesn't actually say they lied.

Then somebody counted wrong, as there are supposed to be 7 abominations.

In Jacob's eyes: Genesis 27:19 KJV — And Jacob said unto his father, I am Esau thy firstborn; I have done according as thou badest me: arise, I pray thee, sit and eat of my venison, that thy soul may bless me. It wasn't Esau. He hadn't gone out for venison, as Isaac asked. It was goat meat. 3...

I suppose that's possible, but with hundreds of thousands of women giving birth over months and maybe years, it's very unlikely they were ALWAYS late to the births. Who would continue to call the midwives at all to come help with the births?

Because the qualifier is so subjective, perhaps. As stated before, if God sends a truthful and an untruthful statement and asks the receiver to choose the truthful statement, it's not the same as lying. Otherwise every teacher that made you take a true/false test would be a liar. This is a...