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Ok, then take the NT vs OT conversation elsewhere.

Like I said, rabbit trail, which you are welcome to start a new thread on. Unless you want to show here how God lied in the OT, but doesn't in the NT, or vice versa (emphasis on vice).

Does that not make you a non-catholic? I'm not saying it's not real, just that the anointing didn't always change the person into something else. I don't see that King Saul became a sheep or that he passed from death to life. In fact, if he had indeed passed from death to life, how could he...

Here's how it works. First you mandate that everybody has to believe lies are true, like that a man can have periods, and that someone like Joe Biden could actually win the election, that masks do nothing against airborne vuruses, then they are completely effective so we mandate them...

Why just NT? Seems like a rabbit trail.

No, it doesn't follow. The reason why we use the word "murder" is because it distinguishes between a wrongful killing and a necessary killing (like "execution", which is commanded by God for crimes such as "murder"). God never commanded anyone to lie, despite @Clete's assertion. What is the...

No. Why?

Do you have some scripture saying either received any divine attributes? We have some that suggest Jesus may have given up some divine attributes when He became a man, but that's debated.

Matthew 5:44 KJV — But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you; You do realize that you've quoted a verse talking not about enemies in name, but enemies in deed? Luke 19:14 KJV —...

You're jumping in in the middle of the conversation. I've already said that war strategies allow for deceiving the enemy, and certainly for killing the enemy. But Jesus also said to love your enemy. So killing men is forbidden, except when the alternative is worse in some way. Deceiving men...

And founded on a denial of Christ as the true God. To me your change in scenario is much easier for him to answer, because the result is not a blessed result. And I think you caught the point of my question...That we aren't responsible for the result, nor do we measure the righteousness of an...

And I wonder how many of their covid deaths were really because of the vax?

@JudgeRightly (and @Clete if you're willing to have an adult conversation) Consider this scenario: Your family is rounded up and with you looking on, the enemy is about to put out their eyes if you will just agree to throw a pinch of incense on the fire in acknowledgment of the deity of Caesar...

I'm glad you said this, even if it gets you banned. This thread about lying is not even integral to either OV, which I agree with, or MAD, which I agree partly with. But it ("lying isn't inherently evil" theory) was propounded by Bob Enyart, and that seems to make it a sacred cow. Don't get me...

That's an excellent question. That's why I choose to distinguish battlefield deception from normal lies. And perhaps saving Jews during the holocaust could fit in that category. It didn't make the lie righteous, but the people who lie for that purpose would be considered righteous. And that's...

It was a response to part of @Clete's farewell message.

But it was for a good cause, fighting my apologetic enemy, so it's ok. From now on, I will take your "liar" insult as a compliment and a badge of honor, expecting God to reward me. See how good I am at changing my mind?

Right. But if death is the wages of sin, and babies die, then it's because of Adam's sin in some way. Maybe this will tie back in somehow... Agreed Perhaps, but what about those before the flood. The purpose was for Abraham to save His own life at expense of Sarah's dignity, by claiming she...

Completely unresponsive waste of time to read. Nothing at all other than you repeating your position as though nothing has been said to prove it false, like the repeated quoting of God's word including where it directly quotes God Himself saying things that directly contradict your doctrine...

There are still larger evils out there. That one in particular is easy to understand. The ten Booms struggled with what they were doing. They weren't really blessed for it, as far as I can see--they all died in the camps except Corrie. That doesn't mean it wasn't the right thing for them to do...