The Late Great Urantia Revelation

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That forgiveness is for everyone who has faith in the Gospel of the Kingdom. Any individual Jew who has faith is already forgiven and saved. Galatians 3:28, NIV: "There is neither Jew nor Gentile, neither slave nor free, nor is there male and female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus."
Read the BIBLE. The forgiveness in THAT PASSAGE is specifically about ISRAEL.
Jer 31:31-34 KJV Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah: (32) Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day that I took them by the hand to bring them out of the land of Egypt; which my covenant they brake, although I was an husband unto them, saith the LORD: (33) But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith the LORD, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their God, and they shall be my people. (34) And they shall teach no more every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the LORD: for they shall all know me, from the least of them unto the greatest of them, saith the LORD: for I will forgive their iniquity, and I will remember their sin no more.
 

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That forgiveness is for everyone who

Repents towards God and asks for forgiveness.

has faith in the Gospel of the Kingdom.

False.

Any individual Jew who has faith is already forgiven and saved. Galatians 3:28, NIV: "There is neither Jew nor Gentile, neither slave nor free, nor is there male and female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus."

Mixing dispensations is a cult classic, and only results in confusion, as you have thus demonstrated.
 
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The Urantia Book is much more widely read than you think. The UB has 24 translations and readers all over the world. I met the most recent translator Gabriel Rymberg of the Hebrew version in Jerusalem 2 years ago.

The UB was printed 66 years ago

A quick check on how 2020 went from the Urantia Foundation records shows a 24-Language Website 1,836,318 Sessions 3,572,787 Page Views 1,088,989 New Users 108,963 Urantia Books downloaded from urantia.org

Estimates on the growth of Christianity. "global Christian population of 40,000 in AD 150, rising to 218,000 in 200, and 1.17 million by 250. According to his calculation, it was around 180 that global Christian numbers first surpassed the symbolically weighty figure of 100,000.

Even with a deliberate "slow growth" policy by the foundation and Fellowship, the growth of the dissemination of the Urantia revelation far surpasses that of the missionaries of Paul's version of Jesus' teachings. Granted its much easier now without murderous persecution and a more educated world on the internet.


How Many Christians Were There in 200 A.D.?


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LOL, there are 'billions' in the world now. Who cares how many languages a book only 20 people (exaggerated for effect) believe is written in?
There are LOTS of amateur E-books nobody wants to read.
 

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I had answered your question several times but knew that you would just call anything I say a fairy tale because that's what people like you do.
"People like you" is vocabulary deficient. It is a perjorative.
Paul is rationalizing and giving his opinion as a Jew having been thoroughly indoctrinated in the chosen people delusion and never taught by Jesus when he was on earth.
Yet PETER, called all of his writing scripture. You again are illiterate of what scripture actually says. The UB has to literally throw out the New Testament as well as the Old. In Acts, we learn Paul talked with and was accepted by all the Apostles.
Its the strangest thing that you think God favors those who rejected him a number of times,
: Plain: Like the WHOLE church at that time???? :noway: THINK, Joe!
even killing his Son while those who do believe in Jesus are second class citizens.
Supra.
 

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Repents towards God and asks for forgiveness.



False.



Mixing dispensations is a cult classic, and only results in confusion, as you have thus demonstrated.
Not mixing dispensations, we are in the new covenant now, that's what Jer 31:31-34 KJV is about. You are a classics argumentative person just for the sake of arguing.
 

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LOL, there are 'billions' in the world now. Who cares how many languages a book only 20 people (exaggerated for effect) believe is written in?
There are LOTS of amateur E-books nobody wants to read.
Lon ate crow again, typical response from the ego of the natural man.
 

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Not mixing dispensations,

Yeah, you are.

we are in the new covenant now, that's what Jer 31:31-34 KJV is about.

No. The new covenant has been put on hold, as per Paul, and Acts.

You are a classics argumentative person just for the sake of arguing.

This is an ad hominem. It's a logical fallacy. Address my arguments or don't, but don't attack me.
 

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Yeah, you are.



No. The new covenant has been put on hold, as per Paul, and Acts.



This is an ad hominem. It's a logical fallacy. Address my arguments or don't, but don't attack me.
The Gospel of the Kingdom IS the new covenant and is in place as per Jesus.

Matthew 16:17-19

17 And Jesus answered him, “Blessed are you, Simon Bar-Jonah! For flesh and blood has not revealed this to you, but my Father who is in heaven. 18 And I tell you, you are Peter, and on this rock[a] I will build my church, and the gates of hell[b] shall not prevail against it. 19 I will give you the keys of the kingdom of heaven, and whatever you bind on earth shall be bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth shall be loosed[c] in heaven.”
 
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Well, ok, if you only want Israel to be forgiven then define Israelite today?
Why do you always FALSELY accuse? I never said that "I only want Israel to be forgiven". That is a LIE that you created, because you are a LIAR.

I simply show you the SCRIPTURE as WRITTEN.

I never cease to be amazed by those that think that they know something, but do not.

Since you do not understand God's PROGRESSIVE revelation and His varying DISPENSATIONS, you have no chance of understanding His will.
 

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Why do you always FALSELY accuse? I never said that "I only want Israel to be forgiven". That is a LIE that you created, because you are a LIAR.

I simply show you the SCRIPTURE as WRITTEN.

I never cease to be amazed by those that think that they know something, but do not.

Since you do not understand God's PROGRESSIVE revelation and His varying DISPENSATIONS, you have no chance of understanding His will.
I do understand, Jesus came for all the world, his gospel was for Jew as well as for Gentile. That's WHY the Jews rejected Jesus because they were unwilling to share their God with the Gentile world whom they despised!
 

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I do understand, Jesus came for all the world, his gospel was for Jew as well as for Gentile. That's WHY the Jews rejected Jesus because they were unwilling to share their God with the Gentile world whom they despised!
Confusion reigns with you. AGAIN, you do NOT understand that the dispensation of the grace of God came AFTER Israel rejected their kingdom and their King.

As JR has said, you mix (i.e., BLUR) the dispensations and understand none of them.
 

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Confusion reigns with you. AGAIN, you do NOT understand that the dispensation of the grace of God came AFTER Israel rejected their kingdom and their King.

As JR has said, you mix (i.e., BLUR) the dispensations and understand none of them.
It’s you who are confused by the failure of the Jews false expectations of an exclusively Jewish Messiah to come smash up their enemies and rule the world from David’s throne.

The kingdom established by Jesus was spiritual and for all the world with or without Israel. They refused to be lead by Christ so another people were given the honor.
 

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It’s you who are confused by the failure of the Jews false expectations of an exclusively Jewish Messiah to come smash up their enemies and rule the world from David’s throne.
God gave them exactly that expectation. What is wrong with that expectation?
Luk 1:26-33 KJV And in the sixth month the angel Gabriel was sent from God unto a city of Galilee, named Nazareth, (27) To a virgin espoused to a man whose name was Joseph, of the house of David; and the virgin's name was Mary. (28) And the angel came in unto her, and said, Hail, thou that art highly favoured, the Lord is with thee: blessed art thou among women. (29) And when she saw him, she was troubled at his saying, and cast in her mind what manner of salutation this should be. (30) And the angel said unto her, Fear not, Mary: for thou hast found favour with God. (31) And, behold, thou shalt conceive in thy womb, and bring forth a son, and shalt call his name JESUS. (32) He shall be great, and shall be called the Son of the Highest: and the Lord God shall give unto him the throne of his father David: (33) And he shall reign over the house of Jacob for ever; and of his kingdom there shall be no end.
Gabriel is right, you are wrong.
The kingdom established by Jesus was spiritual and for all the world with or without Israel.
The gospel of the kingdom is about a spiritual kingdom ON THE EARTH.
The Bible explains that the gentiles will come to Israel to per Revelation 21. Isaiah also described this in Isaiah 60.
They refused to be lead by Christ so another people were given the honor.
Not so.
 

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Lon ate crow again,
Did YOU think you proved something? o_O
typical response from the ego of the natural man.
I've plenty of ego, but as we've talked before, the URANTIA is hung up on fleshly considerations, not me. IF it appeals to you, it is in the flesh. It is "Only natural" in its own statements Joe. It literally says so more than once.

Are YOU enjoying YOUR banter? 🤔
 

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God gave them exactly that expectation. What is wrong with that expectation?

Gabriel is right, you are wrong.

The gospel of the kingdom is about a spiritual kingdom ON THE EARTH.
The Bible explains that the gentiles will come to Israel to per Revelation 21. Isaiah also described this in Isaiah 60.

Not so.
But Jesus didn’t take David’s throne, he’s God. His throne is infinitely greater than King David’s. That was another of the false expectations that the priest taught the people and the Son of Man had to quietly disavow.
 

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But Jesus didn’t take David’s throne,
Not yet. But Gabriel said that he would. Do you not believe God's messengers?
he’s God.
Duh.
His throne is infinitely greater than King David’s.
They are both great. You seem to forget or downplay the fact that Jesus is the GOD MAN. The MAN who is GOD is the one that will sit on David's throne.
That was another of the false expectations that the priest taught the people and the Son of Man had to quietly disavow.
You are super duper confused.
 

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Not yet. But Gabriel said that he would. Do you not believe God's messengers?

Duh.

They are both great. You seem to forget or downplay the fact that Jesus is the GOD MAN. The MAN who is GOD is the one that will sit on David's throne.

You are super duper confused.
The agreement with Abraham, who demonstrated blind faith in God, was always about the preselected place and culture for the incarnation of the Son of God. The Gospel message of the Son was always to be for ALL the world. But by the time the Son came the Jews had developed a segregated, selfish, "chosen people" tradition based belief about themselves which was incompatible with the Gospel of the kingdom. It still is.

"Abraham is our father,” they replied.

“If you were children of Abraham,” said Jesus, “you would do the works of Abraham. 40But now you are trying to kill Me, a man who has told you the truth that I heard from God. Abraham never did such a thing. 41You are doing the works of your father.”

Because of this, I am sending you prophets and wise men and teachers. Some of them you will kill and crucify, and others you will flog in your synagogues and persecute in town after town. 35And so upon you will come all the righteous blood shed on earth, from the blood of righteous Abel to the blood of Zechariah son of Berechiah, whom you murdered between the temple and the altar. 36Truly I tell you, all these things will come upon this generation.


Its you who are confused by the old ideas that the Israelites developed about themselves which were the basis for rejecting the Son.
 
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