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  • Originally posted by Jerry Shugart View Post
    If you are right then the absolute beginning was not day six because five days preceded the sixth day.
    Jesus Himself didn't say "at the absolute beginning."

    So quit moving the goalposts.
    Originally posted by JudgeRightly View Post
    The only one here saying "absolute" beginning is you, Jerry.

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    • Originally posted by Jerry Shugart View Post
      If you are right then the absolute beginning was not day six because five days preceded the sixth day.
      Correct...(sort of). Jesus was not referring to day 6 as the beginning. He was referring to "the creation" which was a 6 day event in Genesis 1.
      Without Genesis, absolutely nothing makes sense in all of Scripture.

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      • Originally posted by 6days View Post
        Correct...(sort of). Jesus was not referring to day 6 as the beginning. He was referring to "the creation" which was a 6 day event in Genesis 1.
        Did we put this OP /thread to bed yet 6days? It's young, right? The earth? It's young. Nobody has any impenetrable argument to the contrary, neither 'scientific' or logical /scriptural. The earth is young, it's young. It just is, and it is because of the Resurrection of Christ, because that means God's real, and if God's real, there's nothing stopping God from creating just the way it reads in Genesis 1-3, and I personally don't care whether it can be interpreted in metaphorical ways because, the text isn't demanding or even requesting that we do that. It's set out as an event over six days, and I don't have any reason to believe otherwise.

        And I think we both agree that this is not a salvific /salvation issue, and we won't break communion with anybody for believing in evolution and the 'big bang' and other things that we do not believe. You have the right to believe whatever cosmology suits your theology, and your fancy, and so long as you reciprocally respect me, it's not a divisive matter and never will be.
        "Those who believe in Christ" are all the Christians, Catholic or not.

        @Nee_Nihilo

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        • Originally posted by 6days View Post
          Apple..... Do you know what they say about a bag of hammers?

          Do you have trouble with easy to understand literature... or only the Bible?

          Did you know sometimes words have more than one meaning?

          For example.... Did you know that the word 'day' (and also YOM in Hebrew) have a variety of meanings always determined by context?

          Here is an easy test for you...
          In my fathers day, it took 3 days of fishing during the day only, to catch our limit?
          Ok... so the word DAY is used 3 times with 3 meanings in one sentence. If you can figure that out... then go back to Gen.2:4 and use the same logic. It may hurt, because it contradicts your beliefs. BTW... There are more than 3 meanings to the word day in the OT... Its ALWAYS easy to understand with context

          So...

          You accept the lexical definitions for yom....but deny and ignore the lexical definitions for bara and asah?

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          • Originally posted by Apple7
            You accept the lexical definitions for yom....but deny and ignore the lexical definitions for bara and asah?
            No I did not provide lexical definitions for 'Yom'. I did say that the word has various meanings in Scripture which is always determined by context.

            Likewise we don't need you selecting obscure definitions from a lexicon for the words 'create' and 'made'. (Bara and Asah). We can simply look in God's Word to see how the words are often used interchangeably. For example
            God made the Sun.... God created the Sun
            Psalm 148:5 / Genesis 1:16
            God made the Stars... God created the Stars
            Gen. 1:16 / Isaiah 40:26

            What is the difference between god making and God creating the Stars? Nothing! You are attempting to impose an artificial distinction between two words to fit your belief system rather than accept how they are used in Scripture.
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            God Bara the heavens and earth Gen. 2:4
            God Asah the heavens and the Earth Gen. 2:4

            God Bara man Gen. 2:4
            God Asah man Gen. 3:5

            Also interesting and contrary to your definitions, Genesis 5:2 tells us that God created the first humans. You seem to have the idea, that word can only mean making something out of nothing. We know male was made out of the dust of the ground and Eve was created from Adam's rib. (So it would seem according to your beliefs that Genesis 5:2 should use the word made instead of created?). There are many more examples how the words 'create' and 'made'are used interchangeably in Scripture, and sometimes within the same verse.
            Without Genesis, absolutely nothing makes sense in all of Scripture.

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