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  • Originally posted by Right Divider View Post
    It's funny how you keep running back to this silly stuff.

    Nobody starts with a blank page and just evidence.

    Everyone has the SAME evidence, but look at it differently depending on their assumptions about the nature of things.

    There is NO unequivocal and unambiguous evidence that all life on earth has descended from a universal single common ancestor.

    It was NOT pristine beautiful evidence ALONE that led to that idea.
    Um, no RD, that's not how science works so no wonder you keep making the same mistakes. Assumptions, personal beliefs, preferences about how things should be are entirely irrelevant. If a theory doesn't stand up to continual scrutiny and testing then it's altered accordingly or even discarded. Science is not interested in personal beliefs, whatever they might happen to be. The theory of evolution did not come about because scientists the world over wanted to wind up young earth creationists. It came about because of the evidence. The global consensus in the scientific community regarding it is again, because of the evidence that supports it. Plenty of scientists are also Christians.

    It may be crucial for you to have an earth that's no older than ten thousand years old but science doesn't care.
    Well this is fun isn't it?

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    • Originally posted by Arthur Brain View Post
      Um, no RD, that's not how science works so no wonder you keep making the same mistakes. Assumptions, personal beliefs, preferences about how things should be are entirely irrelevant. If a theory doesn't stand up to continual scrutiny and testing then it's altered accordingly or even discarded. Science is not interested in personal beliefs, whatever they might happen to be. The theory of evolution did not come about because scientists the world over wanted to wind up young earth creationists. It came about because of the evidence. The global consensus in the scientific community regarding it is again, because of the evidence that supports it. Plenty of scientists are also Christians.

      It may be crucial for you to have an earth that's no older than ten thousand years old but science doesn't care.
      If you think that the idea that all life has descended from a single universal common ancestor came about solely by "looking at the evidence", then you are incredibly dense.

      Personally, I don't care how old the earth is. But the actual evidence does not support billions of year.
      All of my ancestors are human.
      Originally posted by Squeaky
      That explains why your an idiot.
      Originally posted by God's Truth
      Father figure, Son figure, and Holy Spirit figure.
      Col 2:9 (AKJV/PCE)
      (2:9) For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.

      1Tim 4:10 (AKJV/PCE)
      (4:10) For therefore we both labour and suffer reproach, because we trust in the living God, who is the Saviour of all men, specially of those that believe.

      Something that was SPOKEN OF since the world began CANNOT be the SAME thing as something KEPT SECRET since the world began.

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      • Originally posted by Right Divider View Post
        If you think that the idea that all life has descended from a single universal common ancestor came about solely by "looking at the evidence", then you are incredibly dense.

        Personally, I don't care how old the earth is. But the actual evidence does not support billions of year.
        Yes, it does, otherwise there wouldn't be global agreement on it, because of the evidence. It does not support the earth being a few thousand years old. If it did then that's what science would say on the matter. It is not "dense" to understand how the scientific method actually works.
        Well this is fun isn't it?

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        • Originally posted by Arthur Brain View Post
          Yes, it does, otherwise there wouldn't be global agreement on it, because of the evidence. It does not support the earth being a few thousand years old. If it did then that's what science would say on the matter. It is not "dense" to understand how the scientific method actually works.
          Please actually read what I post. Here it is AGAIN.

          If you think that the idea that all life has descended from a single universal common ancestor came about solely by "looking at the evidence", then you are incredibly dense.
          All of my ancestors are human.
          Originally posted by Squeaky
          That explains why your an idiot.
          Originally posted by God's Truth
          Father figure, Son figure, and Holy Spirit figure.
          Col 2:9 (AKJV/PCE)
          (2:9) For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.

          1Tim 4:10 (AKJV/PCE)
          (4:10) For therefore we both labour and suffer reproach, because we trust in the living God, who is the Saviour of all men, specially of those that believe.

          Something that was SPOKEN OF since the world began CANNOT be the SAME thing as something KEPT SECRET since the world began.

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          • Originally posted by Right Divider View Post
            Please actually read what I post. Here it is AGAIN.
            Repeating something that didn't do you any favours to start with isn't accomplishing much. The theory of evolution along with an old earth etc etc came about because of the evidence. That's how science works.
            Well this is fun isn't it?

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            • Originally posted by Arthur Brain View Post
              Repeating something that didn't do you any favours to start with isn't accomplishing much.
              I repeated it because it was clear from your response that you never read it.

              Originally posted by Arthur Brain View Post
              The theory of evolution along with an old earth etc etc came about because of the evidence. That's how science works.
              Please demonstrate how the the idea that all life has descended from a single universal common ancestor came about solely by "looking at the evidence".
              All of my ancestors are human.
              Originally posted by Squeaky
              That explains why your an idiot.
              Originally posted by God's Truth
              Father figure, Son figure, and Holy Spirit figure.
              Col 2:9 (AKJV/PCE)
              (2:9) For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.

              1Tim 4:10 (AKJV/PCE)
              (4:10) For therefore we both labour and suffer reproach, because we trust in the living God, who is the Saviour of all men, specially of those that believe.

              Something that was SPOKEN OF since the world began CANNOT be the SAME thing as something KEPT SECRET since the world began.

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              • artie is demonstrating with abundance the problem facing us as a modern society, a modern global society

                artie doesn't understand the arguments - he relies on the understanding of others and trusts that they'll get it right

                people like this shouldn't be allowed to vote, to speak in public, to breed


                he reminds me of this classic monty python sketch:

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                • Originally posted by Right Divider View Post
                  I repeated it because it was clear from your response that you never read it.


                  Please demonstrate how the the idea that all life has descended from a single universal common ancestor came about solely by "looking at the evidence".
                  good luck

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                  • Originally posted by Right Divider View Post
                    I repeated it because it was clear from your response that you never read it.


                    Please demonstrate how the the idea that all life has descended from a single universal common ancestor came about solely by "looking at the evidence".
                    Do some research on the theory of evolution and see how it came about. It didn't come about on a whim and it isn't accepted globally on a whim either. Be honest RD, if it wasn't for your religious belief that requires a literal reading of the Genesis account, then would you really have such a problem with it or the earth being old?
                    Well this is fun isn't it?

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                    • IOW, he doesn't have a clue


                      Classic!

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                      • Originally posted by Arthur Brain View Post
                        Do some research on the theory of evolution and see how it came about. It didn't come about on a whim and it isn't accepted globally on a whim either. Be honest RD, if it wasn't for your religious belief that requires a literal reading of the Genesis account, then would you really have such a problem with it or the earth being old?
                        Please show us the "scientific method" by which we can unequivocally and unambiguously determine the age of rocks. Still waiting....

                        Theories of evolution have been around long before the so-called science that you worship.
                        All of my ancestors are human.
                        Originally posted by Squeaky
                        That explains why your an idiot.
                        Originally posted by God's Truth
                        Father figure, Son figure, and Holy Spirit figure.
                        Col 2:9 (AKJV/PCE)
                        (2:9) For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.

                        1Tim 4:10 (AKJV/PCE)
                        (4:10) For therefore we both labour and suffer reproach, because we trust in the living God, who is the Saviour of all men, specially of those that believe.

                        Something that was SPOKEN OF since the world began CANNOT be the SAME thing as something KEPT SECRET since the world began.

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                        • Originally posted by Right Divider View Post
                          Please show us the "scientific method" by which we can unequivocally and unambiguously determine the age of rocks. Still waiting....

                          Theories of evolution have been around long before the so-called science that you worship.
                          I don't "worship" science, I just accept it. Something you apparently cannot do but as before, science doesn't care. You've had everything explained to you in detail by Alate but it doesn't matter what anyone says or provides because your belief system just won't allow it, right? You say you don't care how old the earth is but that's not entirely true is it?
                          Well this is fun isn't it?

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                          • Originally posted by Arthur Brain View Post
                            I don't "worship" science, I just accept it.
                            I accept science as well.

                            Originally posted by Arthur Brain View Post
                            Something you apparently cannot do but as before, science doesn't care.
                            False accusations will get you nowhere.

                            Originally posted by Arthur Brain View Post
                            You've had everything explained to you in detail by Alate but it doesn't matter what anyone says or provides because your belief system just won't allow it, right? You say you don't care how old the earth is but that's not entirely true is it?
                            Instead of hiding, as you have done from the start, why don't you actually discuss the scientific details of "rock dating"?

                            No, I don't care. But I also don't believe that the evidence supports billions of years. You've certainly done nothing to persuade me.
                            All of my ancestors are human.
                            Originally posted by Squeaky
                            That explains why your an idiot.
                            Originally posted by God's Truth
                            Father figure, Son figure, and Holy Spirit figure.
                            Col 2:9 (AKJV/PCE)
                            (2:9) For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.

                            1Tim 4:10 (AKJV/PCE)
                            (4:10) For therefore we both labour and suffer reproach, because we trust in the living God, who is the Saviour of all men, specially of those that believe.

                            Something that was SPOKEN OF since the world began CANNOT be the SAME thing as something KEPT SECRET since the world began.

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                            • Originally posted by Right Divider View Post
                              I accept science as well.
                              I'm sure you do, just not anything that contradicts a certain belief.

                              False accusations will get you nowhere.
                              Well, it's just as well I didn't make any then, certainly not in context of the subject.

                              Instead of hiding, as you have done from the start, why don't you actually discuss the scientific details of "rock dating"?
                              I haven't "hidden" at all. I've repeatedly provided you with links that go into depth about such dating methods only for you to say it's all debunked although, tellingly, without any accredited evidence to support it.

                              No, I don't care. But I also don't believe that the evidence supports billions of years. You've certainly done nothing to persuade me.
                              If you didn't care then you'd accept what science the world over has to say on the matter.
                              Well this is fun isn't it?

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                              • Originally posted by Right Divider View Post
                                I accept science as well.
                                Except for all the science that contradicts your political and religious beliefs.

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