toldailytopic "Evolutionary theory isn't about the origin of life"

7djengo7

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I saw a Darwin cheerleader say

Evolutionary theory isn't about the origin of life.

If something is not about the origin of life, then how can it be about THE ORIGIN OF SPECIES???

But, make a note of it that no theory is called "evolutionary theory", or "the theory of evolution", so, whatever is called "evolutionary theory" and "the theory of evolution" is something that is, indeed, not about the origin of life--because it is not about anything at all.
 

Arthur Brain

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You've just told me that species aren't life. Why do you like to sound so stupid?

Hmm, where did I say that exactly? See, the clue is in the term "evolution". At the basic level it describes how life evolves which obviously includes species. What it doesn't comment on is how life itself originated to begin with. You make a common mistake that people tend to do on the subject of evolution when they don't really understand it. In short, the quote you used in the OP and which you were attempting to mock is absolutely correct.
 

Right Divider

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See, the clue is in the term "evolution".
That vague and malleable term... ever changing to make sure that the "theory" cannot be falsified.

At the basic level it describes how life evolves which obviously includes species. What it doesn't comment on is how life itself originated to begin with.
The majority of those that call themselves "evolutionists" believe that a SINGLE LIVING THING came into being and that all life is a descendant of that wondrous creature.

"Evolution" cannot begin until there is life and we have no way to verify nor falsify the existence of this SINGLE creature from which all life is supposedly descended.

Believing in common descent from this SINGLE creature is just that... a belief.

You make a common mistake that people tend to do on the subject of evolution when they don't really understand it. In short, the quote you used in the OP and which you were attempting to mock is absolutely correct.
:juggle:
 

Arthur Brain

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That vague and malleable term... ever changing to make sure that the "theory" cannot be falsified.


The majority of those that call themselves "evolutionists" believe that a SINGLE LIVING THING came into being and that all life is a descendant of that wondrous creature.

"Evolution" cannot begin until there is life and we have no way to verify nor falsify the existence of this SINGLE creature from which all life is supposedly descended.

Believing in common descent from this SINGLE creature is just that... a belief.


:juggle:


Sure, life has to exist in order for it to evolve. Doesn't alter the fact that evolution itself has nothing to do with how life itself came into being. That's the point.

Also, it's generally folk like you who refer to people as "evolutionists" or "Darwinists" and whatnot...
 

Right Divider

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Sure, life has to exist in order for it to evolve. Doesn't alter the fact that evolution itself has nothing to do with how life itself came into being. That's the point.

Also, it's generally folk like you who refer to people as "evolutionists" or "Darwinists" and whatnot...
What else should I call someone that believes in the "theory of evolution" or "Darwinism"?
 
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