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  • #31
    He will not fit their O.T. expectations. They will not recognize him.

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    • #32
      Originally posted by Nick M View Post
      When you stand before him what are you going to say? If you plead innocent, he will cast you away for being a liar and breaking the law. If you plead guilty, he will cast you away for breaking the law. I sort of think that is what you want. I am asking again because Koban and I want to know.
      Kind of the way the Pharisees asked Jesus if it was proper to pay taxes to Caesar.

      They figured they had him, no matter how he answered. You guys haven't changed a bit in 2000 years.

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      • #33
        Originally posted by Knight View Post
        toldailytopic: If Christ walked among us today how would He be received by Catholics, Protestants, Jews, Agnostics, and Atheists?
        Glad to see the Battle Royale is still being encouraged.

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        • #34
          There are still those today who would want Christ to be a political king who would smite all their enemies.

          But He'd still be sitting down to eat with the tax collector, talking to the woman at the well, telling us about the good Samaritan and giving the sermon on the mount - all the things he did to show us how to love.

          Tried and waited then got tired, that's about it

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          • #35
            and would He still be refusing to condemn people, telling them "Go and sin all you like"?

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            • #36
              Originally posted by resurrected View Post
              and would He still be refusing to condemn people, telling them "Go and sin all you like"?
              And would He, the Shepherd searching for the lost sheep, be telling his followers to condemn others to Hell and rejoice in the idea of their burning?

              Tried and waited then got tired, that's about it

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              • #37
                Well, yeah - that whole "shake the dust from your feet" thing

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by resurrected View Post
                  and would He still be refusing to condemn people, telling them "Go and sin all you like"?
                  Hmm... let's see...

                  John 8:7 When therefore they continued asking him, he lifted up himself, and said to them: He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone at her. [8] And again stooping down, he wrote on the ground. [9] But they hearing this, went out one by one, beginning at the eldest. And Jesus alone remained, and the woman standing in the midst. [10] Then Jesus lifting up himself, said to her: Woman, where are they that accused thee? Hath no man condemned thee?

                  [11] Who said: No man, Lord. And Jesus said: Neither will I condemn thee. Go, and now sin no more.


                  Refusing to condemn, yes. "Sin all you like", no.

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by resurrected View Post
                    Well, yeah - that whole "shake the dust from your feet" thing
                    That's not even close to the same thing. One is accepting God's will for the person in that moment, and hoping for grace to grow a planted seed.

                    The other is an active enjoyment of the thought of someone being eternally damned.

                    Tried and waited then got tired, that's about it

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by annabenedetti View Post
                      That's not even close to the same thing. One is accepting God's will for the person in that moment, and hoping for grace to grow a planted seed.
                      That's not in scripture

                      The other is an active enjoyment of the thought of someone being eternally damned.
                      rather, enjoying watching the wicked receive their just punishments according to God

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by Timotheos View Post
                        The definition of sadist is someone who enjoys the suffering of others. Res admitted that he is a sadist when he told Rusha that he will enjoy seeing her burn. If Tertullian enjoys the suffering of others, then I do see him in a similar light. I haven't seen his writing. Has he admitted to sadism as Res has done? Is he one of those who claim that part of "Christiian Bliss" in Heaven is to watch others burn in hell? Ignorance can sometimes be cured, Stupidity is permanent.
                        Yes. Probably THE one to claim such.

                        I'd enjoy watching a few people burn in hell, problem is I don't trust the authority of an invisible man to arbitrate (even arbitrarily) - but it goes quite a lot further than that, I wouldn't be able to acquiesce to a deity that would expect me to endure the suffering of good people for eternity. But I'm just a "moral relativist", what would I know?

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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by Totton Linnet View Post
                          A great many evangelicals would criticize Him for hanging around with notorious sinners...
                          Which would be everyone at some point in their lives, only not, when they have received Christ because then they have taken on His righteousness.

                          Can you name someone Christ "hung out" with, who continued to be a "notorious sinner" after they received Him?
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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by PureX View Post
                            I think that if Jesus were here, today, and could see how so many Christians have made a sacred totem out of the Bible, he'd tell them to throw it out the window. And they, in turn, would immediately seek to have him annihilated. Just like the Jews did the last time he was here. Most everyone else would probably just ignore him, as most people did the last time he was here. A few would see the truth and healing in what he was saying and doing, and join with him, again, just as the last time he was here.

                            Not much has changed since then, really.
                            Actually Christ admonished them for not following the scriptures and heeding them. He even said more times than could be counted "as it is written" and made a point to show them how prophecy concerning Him was being fulfilled.

                            Mark 12:24 Jesus said to them, "Is this not the reason you are mistaken, that you do not understand the Scriptures or the power of God?

                            John 5:45 45 Do not think that I will accuse you to the Father. There is one who accuses you: Moses, on whom you have set your hope. 46 For if you believed Moses, you would believe me; for he wrote of me. 47 But if you do not believe his writings, how will you believe my words?
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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by Knight View Post
                              toldailytopic: If Christ walked among us today how would He be received by Catholics, Protestants, Jews, Agnostics, and Atheists?
                              He would be largely rejected. Many would argue with him, stating: that's not what the Bible says, and He would have to point out to them that it actually does.

                              They would say, "But you said..." And He would respond, "No I didn't."

                              Originally posted by resurrected View Post
                              pretty much the same as 2000 years ago


                              what - you think people have fundamentally changed in the past 2000 years?

                              We're living in the new Rome, baby!
                              Exactly.

                              Originally posted by resurrected View Post
                              res attempts to reach past satan and touch rusha's soul

                              satan demonstrates the grip he has on rusha:
                              Or maybe this demonstrates how you have damaged your witness.
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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by Lighthouse View Post
                                Or maybe this demonstrates how you have damaged your witness.
                                It's possible

                                but I don't see anybody doing any better, especially those who pretend to be her friends

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