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  • Originally posted by God's Truth View Post
    Well, the Christ was the Rock. Right?

    However, the body of Christ was even before Moses.

    Hi and was BEFORE the beginning , so where is your verse , that the B O C WAS before Moses ?

    It is it true that you have NEVER read nor understand 2 Tim 1:9 ??

    dan p

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    • Originally posted by Nick M View Post
      Double-facepalm
      "Then he remembered the days of old,
      Moses and his people, saying:
      "Where is He who brought them up out of the sea
      With the shepherd of His flock?
      Where is He who put His Holy Spirit within them,
      Who led them by the right hand of Moses,
      With His glorious arm,
      Dividing the water before them
      To make for Himself an everlasting name"
      (Isaiah 63:11-12)

      "Moreover, brethren, I do not want you to be unaware that all our fathers were under the cloud, all passed through the sea, all were baptized into Moses in the cloud and in the sea, all ate the same spiritual food, and all drank the same spiritual drink. For they drank of that spiritual Rock that followed them, and that Rock was Christ." (1 Corinthians 10:1-4)

      "By faith Moses, when he became of age, refused to be called the son of Pharaoh’s daughter choosing rather to suffer affliction with the people of God than to enjoy the passing pleasures of sin, esteeming the reproach of Christ greater riches than the treasures in Egypt for he looked to the reward." (Hebrews 11:24-26)

      Can you say Moses was not a shepherd, a pastor of Christ?

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      • Originally posted by DAN P View Post
        Hi and was BEFORE the beginning , so where is your verse , that the B O C WAS before Moses ?

        It is it true that you have NEVER read nor understand 2 Tim 1:9 ??

        dan p
        The whole universe was made through the Body of Christ, and was thrown out when Adam and Eve sinned.
        Oh how I love the Word of God!

        Don't just hear the word and believe it---do it.

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        • Originally posted by God's Truth View Post
          The whole universe was made thought the Body of Christ, and was thrown out when Adam and Eve sinned.

          Hi and will you produce a verse , as proof ??

          dan p

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          • Originally posted by DAN P View Post
            Hi and will you produce a verse , as proof ??

            dan p
            Colossians 1:16 For in him all things were created: things in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or powers or rulers or authorities; all things have been created through him and for him.

            Genesis 2:23 So the Lord God banished him from the Garden of Eden to work the ground from which he had been taken. 24 After he drove the man out, he placed on the east side[m] of the Garden of Eden cherubim and a flaming sword flashing back and forth to guard the way to the tree of life.
            Oh how I love the Word of God!

            Don't just hear the word and believe it---do it.

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            • Originally posted by God's Truth View Post
              Colossians 1:16 For in him all things were created: things in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or powers or rulers or authorities; all things have been created through him and for him.

              Genesis 2:23 So the Lord God banished him from the Garden of Eden to work the ground from which he had been taken. 24 After he drove the man out, he placed on the east side[m] of the Garden of Eden cherubim and a flaming sword flashing back and forth to guard the way to the tree of life.

              Hi and what does this have to do with the B O C ??


              Eph 1:4 and 2 Tim 1:9 were BEFORE God made anything !!


              dan p

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              • Originally posted by DAN P View Post
                Hi and what does this have to do with the B O C ??


                Eph 1:4 and 2 Tim 1:9 were BEFORE God made anything !!


                dan p
                Everything was made through the Body of Christ.

                Now all must be reconciled through the Body of Christ.
                Oh how I love the Word of God!

                Don't just hear the word and believe it---do it.

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                • Originally posted by God's Truth View Post
                  Jesus is the Lamb of God who takes away the sins of the world.
                  Jesus is the Lamb of God that takes away the sin (singular) of the world. (Jn. 1:29)
                  No man can come to God except through Christ. (Jn. 14:20)
                  No man can come to Christ unless he comes through the Cross. (Jn. 3:16; Eph. 2:13–18)
                  No man can come to the Cross without a denial of self. (Lk. 9:23–24)

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                  • Originally posted by 7Spirits View Post
                    Only people who deny His Divinity or that faith alone saves us would misunderstand Hebrews 13:13 and John 3:14-16.

                    The perfect Lamb became the goat of goats to allow us goats to be seen as perfect before the Father upon belief.

                    2 Cor. 5:21 For our sake He made Him to be sin who knew no sin, so that in Him we might become the righteousness of God.

                    The only people that would read these verses and dismiss them are this sort,

                    Romans 10:13 For being ignorant of God's righteousness, and seeking to establish their own, they did not subject themselves to the righteousness of God
                    Originally posted by God's Truth View Post
                    Does a Lamb without blemish mean anything to you?

                    Jesus didn't become a goat. He is the Lamb of God who takes away the sins of the world.

                    Show where in scripture that says Jesus is the Goat of God.

                    Don't let the imagination take you away from the Truth.
                    Originally posted by marhig View Post
                    I'm sorry but Jesus was never a goat in any way whatsoever! he may well have come into this sinful flesh, but he denied himself completely and never sinned even through all his temptations, and he was a lamb without spot or blemish, pure in the sight of the living God. Not once did he sin as we do. So no he was no goat! And he separated the sheep from the goats and those who belong to him, hear his voice and follow him!

                    And we are saved through faith, by the grace of God. And from then on we are to be doers of the word and not hearers only, and live by the will of God

                    And I think you need to carry on reading what Jesus said in John 3

                    John 3:17

                    For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved. He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil. For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved. But he that doeth truth cometh to the light, that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in God.
                    Originally posted by God's Truth View Post
                    Establishing one's own righteousness was a command from God in the old testament times.

                    God told the people of the works of the law that they had to do.

                    The Jews had the works of the law to atone for themselves.

                    They had to clean themselves.

                    Don't confuse doing right and abstaining from evil as the works of the law.

                    Works of the law are about cleaning yourself and dealing with the sin nature ALL BY YOURSELF.

                    A person had to get circumcised, adhere to a dietary law, observe special days, do various external washings, and sacrifice animals.

                    Now Jesus cleans us.

                    We no longer have to do the works of the law, but we still have to obey!

                    The Jews didn't want to stop doing those works of the law, they wanted to keep circumcising, and observing special days, etc.

                    They would not accept it that Jesus' blood cleaned them ONCE AND FOR ALL.
                    Questions for both of you.

                    Do you believe Jesus is God?

                    Do you believe Faith Alone saves?

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                    • Originally posted by 7Spirits View Post
                      Questions for both of you.

                      Do you believe Jesus is God?

                      Do you believe Faith Alone saves?
                      Jesus is God.

                      Faith alone does not save it is dead.
                      Oh how I love the Word of God!

                      Don't just hear the word and believe it---do it.

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                      • Originally posted by lifeisgood View Post
                        Jesus is the Lamb of God that takes away the sin (singular) of the world. (Jn. 1:29)
                        What? You still want to be a teacher? You will be judged more harshly.

                        You tried to sneak in your false beliefs.

                        1 John 2:2 He is the atoning sacrifice for our sins, and not only for ours but also for the sins of the whole world.
                        Oh how I love the Word of God!

                        Don't just hear the word and believe it---do it.

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                        • Originally posted by God's Truth View Post
                          Everything was made through the Body of Christ.

                          Now all must be reconciled through the Body of Christ.
                          Have you ever thought of supporting your statements with verses from the Bible?

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                          • Originally posted by glorydaz View Post
                            Have you ever thought of supporting your statements with verses from the Bible?
                            Just ask if you do not know that what I am saying is from the Bible.
                            Oh how I love the Word of God!

                            Don't just hear the word and believe it---do it.

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                            • Originally posted by God's Truth View Post
                              The whole universe was made through the Body of Christ, and was thrown out when Adam and Eve sinned.
                              Originally posted by DAN P View Post
                              Hi and will you produce a verse , as proof ??

                              dan p
                              Hey Dan, you know she just doubled down on stupid?

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                              • Originally posted by God's Truth View Post
                                Jesus is God.

                                Faith alone does not save it is dead.
                                I rest my case.

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