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Why does that make them idiots, Tet?
TEXAS has some of the best cattle breeders in the world.
That's why you are an idiot.
Then why did you say to replace "UN" with "God" in Glorydaz's statement?
God did lots of things through men. That doesn't give you the right to replace those men with God.
It was an idiotic thing for you to say.
Because the temple was destroyed forever in 70AD.
There will never be a third temple condoned by God.
There is no need for a perfect red heifer without spot. Even if the idiot ranchers that have been vainly trying to produce one, could produce one, it would be of no use.
They might as well join Indiana Jones and look for the Ark of the Covenant.
And men have done many stupid things thinking God was doing His will through them (i.e. Crusades, Inquisitions, etc.)
Christian Zionism is all because of dispensationalism.
And how many of them replaced their own name with God, Tet?
If Israel wants a red heifer, who would they go to if not some of the best cattle breeder in the world?
Sounds like they made the smartest choice for what they want.
And you think that equals this ...ROFL! You really are an idiot!
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There will never be another perfect red heifer without spot. Just like there will never be another Ark of the Covenant, Menorah, or a High Priest from the family of Aaron.
The OC has been replaced with the NC.
The Christ rejecting Israelis that live in the Middle East today need to be told about Christ Jesus. Instead, dispies/futurists like yourself encourage them to continue to reject Christ Jesus by telling them they are special and that God is going to one day build them a temple and put the Mosaic Law back in place.
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Obama the Just-War Theorist
Posted by Lew Rockwell on November 20, 2012 11:46 AM
The prez said, "No country on Earth would tolerate missiles raining down on its citizens from outside its borders." Except Iraq, Syria, Yemen, Pakistan, Afghanistan, Sudan, and all the other current and future victims of the empire. Oh, and here's a corollary for you: "No country on Earth would tolerate an almost total trade and people blockade imposed on its citizens from outside its borders."
Posted by Lew Rockwell on November 20, 2012 11:46 AM
The prez said, "No country on Earth would tolerate missiles raining down on its citizens from outside its borders." Except Iraq, Syria, Yemen, Pakistan, Afghanistan, Sudan, and all the other current and future victims of the empire. Oh, and here's a corollary for you: "No country on Earth would tolerate an almost total trade and people blockade imposed on its citizens from outside its borders."
So you believe the temple described in revelation as a metaphorical temple?
That's a bold statement.
Where in scripture do you find that it is now impossible to have anymore spotless red heifers?
I've never said any different.
And that's a bold-faced lie.
No, Revelation was written before 70AD. The temple mentioned in chp 11 describes the temple that was standing at the time (Herod's temple)
Read chp 21, and you will see that in the future there is no temple:
(Rev 21:22) I did not see a temple in the city, because the Lord God Almighty and the Lamb are its temple.
Thats not possible in the description of the temple given in revelation:
11 Then I was given a reed like a measuring rod. And the angel stood,[a] saying, “Rise and measure the temple of God, the altar, and those who worship there. 2 But leave out the court which is outside the temple, and do not measure it, for it has been given to the Gentiles. And they will tread the holy city underfoot for forty-two months. 3 And I will give power to my two witnesses, and they will prophesy one thousand two hundred and sixty days, clothed in sackcloth.”
First the outer court of Herrods temple was not "given the gentiles" and since you believe that the same one, tell me when gentiles overran Herrods temple for 42 months, time frame and references please.
Second, tell me since you believe that fulfilled, who were the 2 witnesses?
Nope, you encourage Israelis and Jews who reject Christ to continue to reject Christ Jesus with statements like the following:
Why would a Jew want to believe in Christ Jesus when you keep telling them that God is going to gather and restore them?
opcorn:
You blithering idiot.
Jews and Christians alike believe there will be a restoration of Israel, because that is what scripture says.
Even the disciples of Jesus believed it.
And I have never encouraged any Jew to reject Christ, even when the restoration occurs, you filthy liar.
But thanks for giving the link to my post so folks can see the whole story. :up:
Yes it is.
The Gentiles could not go past a certain point in the Outer Court, whereas Jews that were ritually poor could go to the next level.
Keep in mind that as of 30AD it had been 46 years that Herod had been working on the temple
(John 2:20) They replied, “It has taken forty-six years to build this temple, and you are going to raise it in three days?”
The Jews did not stop building in 30AD, they kept building and working on the temple almost up to 70AD.
By 70AD the temple and the surrounding area of the temple was huge. We're talking about 86 years of construction.
In contrast, Solomon's temple was built in 7 years.
(1 Kings 6:38) In the eleventh year in the month of Bul, the eighth month, the temple was finished in all its details according to its specifications. He had spent seven years building it.
So imagine how much bigger the Second Temple (Herod's Temple) was compared to Solomon's Temple. Plus, Herod used slave labor
The Romans came in 66AD and by 70AD the temple was completely destroyed. Not one stone was left upon another just like Jesus said. 42 months.
Don't know. There is no clear consensus who the two witnesses were. Even futurists don't know who the two witnesses will be.
The only surviving writings that we have from 66AD - 70AD that describe the destruction of the temple are those of Josephus, and he makes no mention of two witnesses.
Jews do, but only Christians that have been brainwashed by dispensationalism believe so.
Only scripture that was written by captives in Babylon that pertained to the captives returning from Babylon to Judah.
The scripture was not written to people today.
No, the Disciples believed that the Kingdom was at hand. The Disciples didn't take passages that applied to the captives in Babylon about returning to the Promised Land and apply them to the first century because they already were in the Promised Land.
Every time you tell a Jew that God is going to restore the nation of Israel, you encourage a Jew to reject Christ.
Ezekiel was exiled to Babylon when he was 25 years old. He spent the rest of his life in Babylon, he never returned to Judah. While there he prophesied about not only the destruction of Solomon's temple, but a return of the Jews to Judah and a rebuilt temple.
His prophecies were fulfilled when the Jews returned after 70 years of captivity in Babylon, and Ezra and Nehemiah rebuilt the temple.
Yet, you want to apply Ezekiel's prophecies to Israelis today even though they were fulfilled 2,500+ years ago.
Exactly, which is why it isnt herrods temple in revelation- you just made my point,the revelation temple says that gentiles will overrun the outer court.
You dont know who the witnesses are, because it hasnt yet happened.