ECT Why shouldn't I convert from Evangelical Protestant to Catholic?

[Heterodoxical]

you have to start there
either it is
or
it is not His Church
everything else depends on that

And that's why I'm not RCC. Well one of the big reasons.

HOWEVER I don't see why that is a necessary point to claim they are His Church. I'm, doubtless, more ecumenical than you on what His Church would be. Don't mean that as a snobbish comment. You just can't be that ecumenical without violating your faith... You'll get a whuppin.

 

[Heterodoxical]

Did I say they were not saved? Or that we need salvation.

Too easy


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You still made accusations. Don't strawman me boyeeee... I'm not lettin that fly.

 

[Heterodoxical]

Oh no, the church of God existed long before the church of Rome.

It's a semantical argument.

The difference between the two is that the church of God is a spiritual body with Christ as its head and the church of Rome is a physical corporate body with an elected man as its head. The two churches have little in common.

You can't really support that in scripture nor in church History. That's how I was raised, being SBC.

 

[chrysostom]

And that's why I'm not RCC. Well one of the big reasons.

HOWEVER I don't see why that is a necessary point to claim they are His Church. I'm, doubtless, more ecumenical than you on what His Church would be. Don't mean that as a snobbish comment. You just can't be that ecumenical without violating your faith... You'll get a whuppin.

what does bind and loose mean to you?

 

[CabinetMaker]

when did Mary's church start?

When Rome crowned Mary Queen of Heaven.

 

[chrysostom]

When Rome crowned Mary Queen of Heaven.

we are just showing respect for His mother
and
what she seems to be doing in places like mexico

 

[Heterodoxical]

what does bind and loose mean to you?

That's not the issue. It's who he was told could bind and loose that is the issue.

Do we really wanna do this here??? It'll hijack the thread. I sent you a "position statement" on my view to keep it out of here.... that you could or couldn't peruse if you wished.

 

[Cruciform]

Sigh. For such a decision one would think that careful study would be in order.

You're assuming---falsely---that careful study has not already been undertaken.

 

[CabinetMaker]

we are just showing respect for His mother
and
what she seems to be doing in places like mexico

With what the Catholic church has done to Mary, there is no reason for Jesus any more. You know all those people down in Mexico getting down on their knees and thanking Mary for what she has done, shouldn't they be thanking God since all blessings flow from God?

 

[Cruciform]

:thumb: Good luck! Remember, if God is in a bad mood tonight when you are praying, Mary's got your back!

Your fundamental ignorance of Catholic belief and teaching is noted.

 

[jamie]

You can't really support that in scripture nor in church History. That's how I was raised, being SBC.

What? What did I say that can't be supported by scripture?

 

[chrysostom]

That's not the issue. It's who he was told could bind and loose that is the issue.

my point exactly
so
we must first resolve this Church on a rock
and
that is why I cannot make your argument

 

[Cruciform]

Like any Christian sect...

Your entirely willful ignorance is noted.

 

[chrysostom]

With what the Catholic church has done to Mary, there is no reason for Jesus any more.

then why is our mass all about the Eucharist?

 

[Heterodoxical]

What? What did I say that can't be supported by scripture?

Originally Posted by jamie View Post
The difference between the two is that the church of God is a spiritual body with Christ as its head and the church of Rome is a physical corporate body with an elected man as its head. The two churches have little in common.

 

[chrysostom]

Originally Posted by jamie View Post
The difference between the two is that the church of God is a spiritual body with Christ as its head and the church of Rome is a physical corporate body with an elected man as its head. The two churches have little in common.

exactly

the keys and the power to bind and loose must be given to a person

 

[Cruciform]

With what the Catholic church has done to Mary, there is no reason for Jesus any more.

Merely a gigantic non sequitur on CM's part, not to mention a blatant Straw Man Fallacy. Sadly, CM simply has absolutely no idea what he's talking about. (Still.)

 

[Heterodoxical]

my point exactly
so
we must first resolve this Church on a rock
and
that is why I cannot make your argument

Who was christ talking to at the FIRST of that conversation?

And who in the Church of Rome holds the keys to forgiving sins, to excommunication, etc... is it one person or the clergy in general?

 

[Lon]

thank you lon for another opportunity to point out that the Church no longer knowingly ordains homosexuals

Counterpoints are fine, I just wanted to give him what he asked for. I think giving him the counterpoints would be more helpful.

On this note: "....the Church no longer knowingly ordains homosexuals...." What the in hell????!!!!???

 

[chrysostom]

Who was christ talking to at the FIRST of that conversation?

And who in the Church of Rome holds the keys to forgiving sins, to excommunication, etc... is it one person or the clergy in general?

that is not what bind and loose means

it means to make changes