SaulToPaul 2
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I thought it kicked in with the Monterrey Pop Festival in AD 67.
ECT Why preterism can never be taken seriously by Bible believers
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I thought it kicked in with the Monterrey Pop Festival in AD 67.
WonderfulLordJesus
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So you count God slack, all you're revealing, to the point you have to fabricate your own false doctrines. Typical cult, out of context exegesis. By your time reckoning, God is slack as to His promise, therefore must have returned already?
2 Peter 3
8 But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.
9 The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.
10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.
All you're proclaiming is the Lord is slack, of the error stated above, for your flesh timeframe, a couple thousand years nothing in His timeframe. This scripture states such a viewpoint is ignorance, even. But the ignorance doesn't end there.
Coming quickly has to do with the events of the apocalypse unfolding quickly, when He comes as a thief in the night. Preterists contradict scripture that the Lord said, out of one side of His mouth, that not even the Son knows the time, Mark 13:32, that nobody was to know the time, but out of the other side stated the timeframe He would come in? Impossible. Classic error that pits scripture truth against scripture truth, to create a perceived contradiction, born of a mind that doesn't understand scripture. In this same vein, you don't even consider that the Lord is stating that, when the events of the book begin to unfold, His coming is near. Don't even consider any other view, that doesn't stuff your square peg into a round hole that contradicts the entirety of Bible context, don't consider that the very passage context, the subject, is the prophecy of the book unfolding.
Scripture is clear that God the Father did not will the time of the Lord Jesus' coming be known, even to Himself, or He could not have honestly told every Christian to be ready. On what basis are you saying the Lord Jesus revealed the time of the end, when the real contradiction in that is that He stated He did not know that time, period. So any claim the Lord Jesus was revealing something He didn't know, couldn't even speak to, therefore, is so very false, obviously so, defies common sense. You're making a statement like this, "Jesus didn't even know the time, then said it will happen in this time." Absurd. What part of the Lord Jesus not knowing the time don't you get?
As to the historicity of the writing of Revelation, you can Google this, don't have time for that, anyway. I need to get with thinking on doing something about my lawn, since all the grass hasn't burned up, Revelation 8:7, has never before burned up. One can only muse the Preterist doesn't have to deal with lawns, if nothing else, grass, and all explicit nouns, being just symbolic.
You guys should just replace Holy Bible on the cover of yours, and label it Nostradamus, for all you grasp of the word of God.
That's a parable!
Er, no...It's a shadow....Fulfilled in Christ.
That ought to do it, as that "Fulfilled in Christ" stumper is "gold, Jerry.....gold!"
You're in Warren denial, Mayor, you hater of "in living color"-ite!
Calvin Cleaver, Wally's uncle, from the Bronson side of the family? Guss, the fireman?
Pre-emptive Tellalie strike: All dispies are Darby followers.....You're in denial...Why can't you answer my question?....Don't you believe the bible/"Jesus"/Paul/Peter?....I believe the bible....No one taught that, until Dino of the Flintstones did....
QED.
Quit attacking others. You're still in denial.
Why are you running and hiding, with them spiders, under the local band stand?
SaulToPaul 2
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Why is "grammer" not your strong suit? Or chronology?
It's not important....Maybe...."Technically," it's "grammar," but that's not important...I don't know....Why can't I answer my own questions?....Another Breen-ite/Darbyinger-ite in denial....
Christ Jesus is our hope.
Still waiting for you to tell us if there is any prophecy in the Bible for the destruction of the Second Temple that took place in 70AD.
1Mind1Spirit
Literal lunatic
Man is earth, the kingdom is in man.:thumb:
As we see, every Russell, Hannegraaf, King, Josephus, Gentry.... follower has avoided the question, for 3 years.
Here is the question one more time-still waiting for you to....
Identify this "everyone" that allegedly saw/witnessed an invisible/un-physical Saviour, return in AD 70.
Will any Josephus follower, like Craigie, attempt to answer the question?
And still waiting for you, little girl arms Craigie, to identify this "bunch" of infallible men, that you claim, on record, taught you this "AD 70-ism/Preterism."
What's the problem, no chin boy?
ClimateSanity
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But he is never going to return. He's not even a corporeal being according to you.
ClimateSanity
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How can you see an invisible Savior?
As we see, little framed, weakling, runny nose, whimpering weasel, is running and hiding, suffering another fatal death knell, as J. Stuart Russell is dead, and never identified this "everyone," in his book, from which Craigie plagiarizes, and he cannot scramble to his Hanegraaf tapes, as Hank has not answered it either.
You want might want to learn what the word "eisegesis" means, instead of saying "out of context exegesis".
Regardless, the following two verses prove your post wrong:
(Daniel 12:4) But you, Daniel, roll up and seal the words of the scroll until the time of the end. Many will go here and there to increase knowledge."
(Rev 22:10) Then he told me, "Do not seal up the words of the prophecy of this scroll, because the time is near.
Daniel was told to seal his scroll until the end, whereas John was told NOT to seal his scroll because the end was near.
Exactly my point, and how can signs, be invisible? That is why this Preterist clown Craigie is silent, for over 3 years, on this question.