Why Homosexuality MUST Be Recriminalized! Part 4

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Re-criminalizing homosexuality would just bring America closer to being a totalitarian police state similar to Orwell's 1984 .
Anyone who screams about wanting "liberty" in America while advocating this is a hypocrite of the most despicable kind .
 

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Gotta love Alabama Chief Supreme Court Justice Roy Moore (the "10 Commandments Judge") for putting the left wing activists at the US Supreme Court in their place.

Alabama Chief Supreme Court Justice orders state judges to refuse issuing marriage licenses for same-sex couples

Jan. 6, 2016

Alabama's Chief State Supreme Court Justice issued an order Wednesday banning all lower judges in the state from providing marriage licenses to same-sex couples.

"Until further decision by the Alabama Supreme Court, the existing orders of the Alabama Supreme Court that Alabama probate judges have a ministerial duty not to issue any marriage license contrary to the Alabama Sanctity of Marriage Amendment or the Alabama Marriage Protection Act remain in full force and effect," Roy Moore, Chief Justice of the Alabama Supreme Court, wrote in the order.

The order, first reported by The New York Times, directly defies the U.S. Supreme Court ruling last June that effectively legalized gay marriage nationwide.
Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/pol...efuse-gay-marriage-licenses-article-1.2487546

This article is more detailed (from the "Foundation for Moral Law") :

ADMINISTRATIVE ORDER OF THE CHIEF JUSTICE OF THE ALABAMA SUPREME COURT WHEREAS, IN CONSIDERATION OF THE FOLLOWING:

On March 3, 2015 the Alabama Supreme Court issued a lengthy opinion upholding the constitutionality of Article I, Section 36.03(b), Ala. Const. 1901 (“the Sanctity of Marriage Amendment”), and Section 30-1-19(b), Ala. Code 1975 (“the Marriage Protection Act”), which both state: “Marriage is inherently a unique relationship between a man and a woman.” Ex parte State ex rel. Alabama Policy Institute, [Ms. 1140460, March 3, 2015] ___ So. 3d ___ (Ala 2015) (hereinafter “API”).

The API opinion relied on earlier opinions of the United States Supreme Court and the Alabama Supreme Court for authority. In 1885 the Supreme Court of the United States described marriage as “the union for life of one man and one woman in the holy estate of matrimony; the sure foundation of all that is stable and noble in our civilization; the best guaranty of that reverent morality which is the source of all beneficent progress in social and political improvement.”


Murphy v. Ramsey, 114 U.S. 15, 45. The Alabama Supreme Court similarly stated that “‘[T]he relation of marriage is founded on the will of God, and the nature of man; and it is the foundation of all moral improvement, and all true happiness.'” Goodrich v. Goodrich, 44 Ala. 670, 675 (1870). In its March 3 order in API, the Alabama Supreme Court stated that “Alabama probate judges have a ministerial duty not to issue any marriage license contrary to [the Sanctity of Marriage Amendment or the Marriage Protection Act]. Nothing in the United States Constitution alters or overrides this duty.”

A week later the Court reaffirmed that its March 3 order bound every Alabama probate judge “to the end of achieving order and uniformity in the application of Alabama’s marriage laws.” API (Order of March 10, 2015). The Court also stated that “all probate judges in this State may issue marriage licenses only in accordance with Alabama law as described in our opinion of March 3, 2015.” API (Order of March 12, 2015).

Read more: http://morallaw.org/2016/01/06/admi...rt-whereas-in-consideration-of-the-following/

God bless you Chief Justice Moore!

roymoore10.jpg

I wonder if he's going to reinstating segregation next
 

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If it keeps you from copying and pasting previous posts and reposting it again, sure, why not? Any chance you can attach links to your LGBTQueer propaganda? (I know, it's asking a lot).

the court records of the case in question are now LGBTQueer propaganda?

The Ferguson v JONAH case all came down to what the American Psychiatric Association (APA) considered to be a mental disorder based on their DSM (Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders). As you're well aware, in 1973 homosexuality was removed from the DSM (as shown in this Ryan Sorba article).

Back in 1973 lesbian/homosexual activist Barbara Gittings admitted the following:

It was never a medical decision—and that’s why I think the action came so fast…It was a political move…That’s how far we’ve come in ten years. Now we even have the American Psychiatric Association running scared.
-Barbara Gittings, Activist

http://ryansorba.blogspot.com/2012/01/homosexuality-and-mental-health.html

Quote: Originally posted by aCultureWarrior
Yippie-yi-yo-ki-yay! That means that we get to talk about Frank Kameny again and how he and lesbo Bab's Gittings used jack booted thug tactics to have homosexuality removed from the APA's list of mental disorders.

New Jersey law pertaining to expert witnesses has nothing to do with your little fantasies

Men who have helped hundreds if not thousands of people wanting to rid themselves of same sex desires should be heard by the Court.


Quote: Originally posted by aCultureWarrior
And of course it just wouldn't be right to talk about "gay icon" Frank Kameny (he met with the head sodomite that currently occupies The White House) without talking about his defense of amongst other things bestiality ("As long as the animal doesn't mind, and it rarely does") and speaking at a North American Man Boy Love Association (NAMBLA) meeting.

You always bring up NAMBLA when you get caught in a lie

Since you don't want to talk about Kameny and NAMBLA, how about we talk about the Kameny's pro homosexual APA and their original version of the DSM5?

Tuesday, 12 November 2013
Psychiatric Group Backtracks on Pedophilia Classification

The American Psychiatric Association (APA) has backtracked on its designation of pedophilia as a “sexual orientation,” following backlash from conservative family organizations. In May the APA, which according to its website represents more than 33,000 psychiatrists in the United States and elsewhere, released the fifth edition of its Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (DSM-5), in which pedophilia is described as a sexual “orientation.”

According to LifeSiteNews.com, the designation went largely unnoticed until an online news site called NeonTommy.com uncovered the updated listing. The news site noted that in DSM-5 the APA “drew a very distinct line between pedophilia and pedophilic disorder. Pedophilia refers to a sexual orientation or profession of sexual preference devoid of consummation, whereas pedophilic disorder is defined as a compulsion and is used in reference to individuals who act on their sexuality.”

The revelation led conservative groups such as Liberty Counsel and the American Family Association to condemn the new designation as the latest in the APA's efforts to appear politically correct with regard to sexual aberrations. “Just as the American Psychiatric Association declared homosexuality an ‘orientation’ under tremendous pressure from homosexual activists in the early seventies,” said the AFA's Sandy Rios, “now, under pressure from pedophile activists, they have declared the desire for sex with children an ‘orientation,’ too.”

http://www.thenewamerican.com/cultu...group-backtracks-on-pedophilia-classification
 

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Fact : Homosexuality and pedophilia are not linked together . Anyone who claims that all or even most gays are pedophiles is either an idiot or a liar . Most pedophiles are HETEROSEXUAL .
 

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Fact : Homosexuality and pedophilia are not linked together . Anyone who claims that all or even most gays are pedophiles is either an idiot or a liar . Most pedophiles are HETEROSEXUAL .

Thoughts on my above post?

Psychiatric Group Backtracks on Pedophilia Classification

The [ultra pro homosexual]American Psychiatric Association (APA) [which removed homosexuality from it's list of mental disorders in 1973] has backtracked on its designation of pedophilia as a “sexual orientation,” following backlash from conservative family organizations. In May the APA, which according to its website represents more than 33,000 psychiatrists in the United States and elsewhere, released the fifth edition of its Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (DSM-5), in which pedophilia is described as a sexual “orientation.”

You have to keep in mind what constitutes a mental disorder in the eyes of the ultra pro homosexual APA:

Let's say that after having fantasies of molesting an underage boy, HRC founder Terry Bean feels badly about doing so, so bad that he misses work the next day at the kindergarten that he runs.

That would, in the ever so sick minds of the American Psychiatric Association, be a 'paraphilic disorder'.

In the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (DSM), paraphilic disorders are often misunderstood as a catch-all definition for any unusual sexual behavior. In the upcoming fifth edition of the book, DSM-5, the Sexual and Gender Identity Disorders Work Group sought to draw a line between atypical human behavior and behavior that causes mental distress to a person or makes the person a serious threat to the psychological and physical well-being of other individuals. While legal implications of paraphilic disorders were considered seriously in revising diagnostic criteria, the goal was to update the disorders in this category based on the latest science and effective clinical practice.
Through careful consideration of the research as well as of the collective clinical knowledge of experts in the field, several important changes were made to the criteria of paraphilic disorders, or paraphilias as they have been called in previous editions of the manual.
Characteristics of Paraphilic Disorders
Most people with atypical sexual interests do not have a mental disorder. To be diagnosed with a paraphilic disorder, DSM-5 requires that people with these interests:
feel personal distress about their interest, not merely distress resulting from society’s disapproval
http://www.dsm5.org/Documents/Paraphilic Disorders Fact Sheet.pdf
 

TracerBullet

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Why would you make such a stupid comment and try to falsely equate homosexuality and race? Just run-of-the-mill race-baiting?



because one is a supreme court ruling that ended legalized discrimination and the other is a supreme court ruling that ended legalized discrimination.


But why would you make such a stupid comment and try to falsely claim I'm trying to equate homosexuality and race? I'm equating anti-gay bigotry with racism.
 

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The Ferguson v JONAH case all came down to what the American Psychiatric Association (APA) considered to be a mental disorder based on their DSM (Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders).
not even close to true.

Let's review:

You attacked both me and a sitting Judge
I also see that TOL's most ardent homosexual activist doesn't want to talk about how Judge Peter Bariso didn't allow the testimony of 6 (count em six) expert witnesses who have spent their lives helping people with the disorder known as homosexuality.


I pointed out that the law indicates that expert witnesses have to actually be experts and not just reading a script. And this reasonin is born out in court documents.
Do you really want to talk about the expert witnesses who in deposition admitted that they do not engage in any research? Expert witnesses like James Phelanon who wished to present a biography of studies even though during his deposition, he testified that he made no attempt to assess the validity of the studies compiled?

We can also discuss how Judge Bariso followed the New Jersey law stating that expert opinions have to actually be based on actual science and have evidence to back up their opinions.


You responded by calling court documents
LGBTQueer propaganda




The Ferguson v JONAH case came down to the simple question - did JONAH commit fraud? and yes, yes they did.
 

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The Ferguson v JONAH case all came down to what the American Psychiatric Association (APA) considered to be a mental disorder based on their DSM (Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders).

not even close to true.

Let's review:

You attacked both me and a sitting Judge

After such horrid treatment by that homophobic bigoted racist known as aCultureWarrior, both TracerBullet and "a sitting Judge" are obviously going to need therapy.

I pointed out that the law indicates that expert witnesses have to actually be experts and not just reading a script. And this reasonin is born out in court documents.

When all else fails, read the court document that I attached in previous posts:

Plaintiffs' central argument for excluding the expert
testimony of Drs. Berger, Nicolosi and Phelan, and Mr. Doyle is
based on two premises. First, plaintiffs assert that it is a
scientific fact that homosexuality is not a disorder, but rather
it is a normal variation of human sexuality, and thus any expert
opinion concluding that homosexuality is a disorder is
inadmissible. Plaintiffs support this assertion with the fact
that, in 1973, the American Psychiatric Association ("APA")
removed homosexuality from the list of disorders in the Diagnostic
and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders ("DSM") , and major
organizations both nationally and internationally followed suit.Second, plaintiffs further assert that, because the belief that
homosexuality is a mental disorder is false and lacks any basis in
science, any expert opinion that is derived from that false initial
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premise is unreliable and should be excluded.
Additionally,
because their belief that homosexuality is a disorder conflicts
with the understanding held by every legitimate professional
association, these experts have banded together under NARTH's
umbrella.
Plaintiffs contend that each of Drs. Berger, Nicolosi and
Phelan, and Mr. Doyle proffer opinions based on the initial false
premise that: (1) homosexuality is not a normal variant of human
sexuality but instead is a failure to achieve full development
into normal heterosexuality; (2) homosexuality is not a normal
variation of human sexuality, but rather is a "clinical condition"
caused by negative experiences; (3) homosexuality is a disorder
and there is a universal heterosexual natural order; and, (4)
homosexuality is not a natural variation of human sexuality.

http://lgbtbar.org/annual/wp-content/uploads/sites/3/2015/05/JONAH-Expert-Exclusion.pdf

The Ferguson v JONAH case came down to the simple question - did JONAH commit fraud? and yes, yes they did.

I see that JONAH helps other people with sexual disorders as well:

"In addition to offering counseling on homosexuality,
JONAH's scope of services include therapy on other "sexual
conflicts," such as "sexual promiscuity, pornography, sexual
abuse, pedophilia or pederasty, compulsive masturbation, fetishes,
transvestitism, incest, prostitution, emotional dependency, [and]
sexual addictions."


If people seeking therapy for the above weren't at first successful, or just gave up trying to overcome their sexual perversion, would that be "fraud" on JONAH's part as well?
 

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Even gay men are repulsed by NAMBLA , which actually doesn't even exist any more . Saying that NAMBLA is typical of gays is as idiotic as saying that the late, unlamented Fred Phelps and his Westboro Baptist Church are typical of all Christians .
 

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And now a few words from the queen of monologues:

Even gay men are repulsed by NAMBLA ,

Have one come forward and tell us that (be forewarned, there will be questions asked).

which actually doesn't even exist any more .

Their acronym has changed to "HRC"*, GLAAD", "GLSEN", etc etc etc.

*Founded by pederast Terry Bean

Saying that NAMBLA is typical of gays is as idiotic as saying that the late, unlamented Fred Phelps and his Westboro Baptist Church are typical of all Christians .

Hatred, something that consumed Fred Phelps, is definitely not part of Christian doctrine. BTW, thoughts on this post?

Psychiatric Group Backtracks on Pedophilia Classification
http://www.theologyonline.com/forums/showpost.php?p=4579012&postcount=1286
 

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Culture Warrior, your claim that NAMBLA is now the other gay rights groups and your implication that they support and promote pedophilia is so idiotic and offensive I have to use all my restraint to avoid calling you the kind of names which would get me permanently banned from this forum .
 

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Culture Warrior, your claim that NAMBLA is now the other gay rights groups and your implication that they support and promote pedophilia is so idiotic and offensive I have to use all my restraint to avoid calling you the kind of names which would get me permanently banned from this forum .

For the life of me I don't know why a straight guy like you would take such offense with the truth De Horn (restraint is good, now only if HRC founder Terry Bean would restrain from raping teenage boys).

Being that anyone who dares goes against the 'gaystapo' is assaulted, threatened with murder, fired from their job, imprisoned, etc., name calling is rather mild when it comes to the ever so tolerant LGBTQueer movement (I won't report you, but I can't guarantee others won't).
 

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Culture Warrior, your claim that NAMBLA is now the other gay rights groups and your implication that they support and promote pedophilia is so idiotic and offensive I have to use all my restraint to avoid calling you the kind of names which would get me permanently banned from this forum .
Most people here probably accept that aCW is a habitual purveyor of misinformation aka economical with the truth, perhaps only to continue his gay obsession in the direction he chooses, you are right not take the bait. :plain:
 

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Nations where homosexuality is illegal:

Africa
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1 Algeria
2 Angola
3 Botswana
4 Burundi
5 Cameroon
6 Comoros
7 Egypt
8 Eritrea
9 Ethiopia
10 Gambia
11 Ghana
12 Guinea
13 Kenya
14 Liberia
15 Libya
16 Malawi
17 Mauritania
18 Mauritius
19 Morocco
20 Namibia
21 Nigeria
22 Senegal
23 Seychelles
24 Sierra Leone
25 Somalia
26 South Sudan
27 Sudan
28 Swaziland
29 Tanzania
30 Togo
31 Tunisia
32 Uganda
33 Zambia
34 Zimbabwe

Asia/Middle East
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35 Afghanistan
36 Bangladesh
37 Bhutan
38 Brunei
39 Daesh (or ISIS / ISIL)
40 India
41 Iran
42 Iraq
43 Kuwait
44 Lebanon
45 Malaysia
46 Maldives
47 Myanmar
48 Oman
49 Pakistan
50 Palestine/Gaza Strip
51 Qatar
52 Saudi Arabia
53 Singapore
54 Sri Lanka
55 Syria
56 Turkmenistan
57 United Arab Emirates
58 Uzbekistan
59 Yemen

Americas
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60 Antigua & Barbuda
61 Barbados
62 Belize
63 Dominica
64 Grenada
65 Guyana
66 Jamaica
67 St Kitts & Nevis
68 St Lucia
69 St Vincent & the Grenadines
70 Trinidad & Tobago

In the United States, anti-sodomy laws were ruled unconstitutional by the U.S. Supreme Court in 2003, but they are still on the books in 13 states: Alabama, Florida, Idaho, Kansas, Louisiana, Michigan, Mississippi, North Carolina, Oklahoma, South Carolina, Texas, Utah and Virginia.

Oceania
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71 Cook Islands
72 Indonesia
73 Kirbati
74 Nauru
75 Papua New Guinea
76 Samoa
77 Solomon Islands
78 Tonga
79 Tuvalu

Europe
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No country in Europe has a law against homosexuality.

Russia, which enacted an anti-gay propaganda law in 2013 prohibiting any positive mention of homosexuality in the presence of minors, including online;

Lithuania, which has a similar law.

Ukraine, which has considered, but so far has not adopted a similar law against “gay propaganda.”

Moldova, which adopted and then repealed such a law in 2013.

http://76crimes.com/76-countries-where-homosexuality-is-illegal/
Why Homosexuality MUST Be Recriminalized! Part 4

I submit that "aCultureWarrior" has found his true "soulmates" in the following countries where homosexuality may be punished by death - unfortunately none of them are Christian.

Iran

Iraq

Mauritania

Nigeria

Qatar

Saudi Arabia

Somalia

Sudan

United Arab Emirates

Yemen

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...where-homosexuality-may-be-punished-by-death/
 

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Most people here probably accept that aCW is a habitual purveyor of misinformation aka economical with the truth, perhaps only to continue his gay obsession in the direction he chooses, you are right not take the bait. :plain:

Gee Al, you really know how to hurt a guy's feelings. I was kinda hoping that someone who isn't into monologues discuss the latest 'gaystapo' court decision in Nu Joyzee (Ferguson v JONAH, the one TracerBullet and I have been talking about).

Care to take "the bait", or have you wised up over the past few years and know your limitations?
 

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Gee Al, you really know how to hurt a guy's feelings. I was kinda hoping that someone who isn't into monologues discuss the latest 'gaystapo' court decision in Nu Joyzee (Ferguson v JONAH, the one TracerBullet and I have been talking about).

Care to take "the bait", or have you wised up over the past few years and know your limitations?
At least you can take your disappointment on the chin aCW, ...or perhaps you can't even be honest about your own feelings. I'm so gullible. :doh:
 

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Nations where homosexuality is illegal:

United States

12 states still ban sodomy a decade after court ruling
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...n-sodomy-a-decade-after-court-ruling/7981025/

I submit that "aCultureWarrior" has found his true "soulmates" in the following countries where homosexuality may be punished by death - unfortunately none of them are Christian.

Iran...

A Christian nation doesn't execute people who are sexually confused jgarden (there's too much death already in the LGBTQueer/abortion/sexual anarchist movement), it legislates righteous laws that will help these lost souls, many who were raped as children or grew up in dysfunctional homes, find a better way.
 
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