Why Homosexuality MUST Be Recriminalized! Part 4

[Town Heretic]

It sounds like you have an issue with God giving man free will.

It looks like you have an issue with reading comprehension.

God's grace is fantastic, but it doesn't come without rules (repentance, acknowledging God's Word as the absolute truth, obedience to His Word).

Which would be a fantastic counter to anyone suggesting otherwise, but isn't much help here.

But we're not talking about the grace of Jesus Christ

Pity, since it's about the only thing that matters.

we're talking about civil government and righteous laws that were ordained by God because of people's inability to be righteous as seen through His Eyes.

So you think the form of government He gave to Israel is the form He intended for the Gentile following? Or just the laws? Do you think God thought two eye witnesses should be an eternal standard or that He'd be okay with DNA today? Because I don't think we're told to model our law and government after Israel, though I think that was as good a model as could be had in its day.

 

[aCultureWarrior]

Quote: Originally Posted by aCultureWarrior View Post

How could a society totally prevent gender confusion?

By simplifying both culture and gender. How many of those crossing the US in covered wagons, and staking out their prairie land, and building log cabins, and planting gardens, and farming, raising babies , etc. do you suppose were cross-dressing and feeling like the other gender?

Without a doubt traditional roles by parents (if you're lucky enough to have a mom and dad in your home while growing up in this day and age) have an tremendous positive effect on gender identity, but as we've seen: traumatic experiences in childhood (sexual abuse, overbearing mother, absent father) frequently lead to homosexual desire; do you not believe that gender confused people were psychologically damaged during their childhood as well?

 

[aCultureWarrior]

Quote:
Originally Posted by aCultureWarrior
It sounds like you have an issue with God giving man free will.

It looks like you have an issue with reading comprehension.

Then explain what you meant by this:

Quote:
Originally Posted by Town Heretic
In a righteous society no one would need help, or have to judge his neighbor, because, you know, everyone in it would be righteous. (mic drop)



Quote: Originally posted by aCultureWarrior
God's grace is fantastic, but it doesn't come without rules (repentance, acknowledging God's Word as the absolute truth, obedience to His Word).

Which would be a fantastic counter to anyone suggesting otherwise, but isn't much help here.

You're going to find this hard to believe but there are people out there that support things that God abhors (like redefining His institution of marriage) who actually believe God will look the other way (and openly embrace them of all things) while they continue to mock Him.


Quote: Originally posted by a CultureWarrior
But we're not talking about the grace of Jesus Christ

Pity, since it's about the only thing that matters.

We're in a politics forum, i.e. civil government, laws.

Quote: aCultureWarrior
we're talking about civil government and righteous laws that were ordained by God because of people's inability to be righteous as seen through His Eyes.

So you think the form of government He gave to Israel is the form He intended for the Gentile following? Or just the laws? Do you think God thought two eye witnesses should be an eternal standard or that He'd be okay with DNA today? Because I don't think we're told to model our law and government after Israel, though I think that was as good a model as could be had in its day.

If you can show me in the bible where the only righteous government allowed by God is a Jewish theocracy, then you'd have a point.

But your little scaremongering tactics never worked before in this thread and they're certainly not working now.

 

[Town Heretic]

Then explain what you meant by this:

If you don't get it you weren't meant to.

You're going to find this hard to believe but there are people out there that support things that God abhors (like redefining His institution of marriage) who actually believe God will look the other way (and openly embrace them of all things) while they continue to mock Him.

I'm not surprised at all. People think all sorts of crazy things. Less surprising would be someone like you being confused about what support is. But like I said, people.

We're in a politics forum, i.e. civil government, laws.

So judgement (your above) is in the box and grace outside of it? The last time I saw a move like that was on Dancing with the Stars.

If you can show me in the bible where the only righteous government allowed by God is a Jewish theocracy, then you'd have a point.

If you show me how you arrive at being the authority on what's relevant here you'd have one. You're talking about laws and I'm noting where those laws were applied and to whom...and some of them changed. More, I'd guess, than you realize.

But your little scaremongering tactics never worked before in this thread and they're certainly not working now.

Like you, I literally have no idea what you're talking about. So I think it's time to do what I mostly do with your threads, which is leave them alone.

:e4e:

 

[aCultureWarrior]

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Originally Posted by aCultureWarrior
Then explain what you meant by this:

If you don't get it you weren't meant to.

I "got it" the first time: yet another pathetic attempt at comedy by Town Heretic.

Quote: Originally posted by aCultureWarrior
You're going to find this hard to believe but there are people out there that support things that God abhors (like redefining His institution of marriage) who actually believe God will look the other way (and openly embrace them of all things) while they continue to mock Him.

I'm not surprised at all. People think all sorts of crazy things. Less surprising would be someone like you being confused about what support is. But like I said, people.

Support: Openly promoting and defending things like strange sex marriage on internet forums; justifying sexual immorality by stating what people do in private isn't anyone's business, etc. etc. etc.

Quote: Originally posted by aCultureWarrior
We're in a politics forum, i.e. civil government, laws.

So judgement (your above) is in the box and grace outside of it? The last time I saw a move like that was on Dancing with the Stars.

You being schooled in the law, you of all people should know that it's the role of civil government to judge (and if found guilty punish). The only "grace" that occurs is after the punishment is carried out and the condemned is free to start anew.

Dust off a law book if this is too complicated for you.


Quote: Originally posted by aCultureWarrior
If you can show me in the bible where the only righteous government allowed by God is a Jewish theocracy, then you'd have a point.

If you show me how you arrive at being the authority on what's relevant here you'd have one. You're talking about laws and I'm noting where those laws were applied and to whom...and some of them changed. More, I'd guess, than you realize.

God handed down His universal moral code to all of mankind, not just the Jews. The United States did a pretty good job prior to the decriminalization of abortion, homosexuality, cohabitation laws, cross dressing laws, and the legislation of no fault divorce when it came to abiding by His principles.

Quote: Originally posted by aCultureWarrior
But your little scaremongering tactics never worked before in this thread and they're certainly not working now.

Like you, I literally have no idea what you're talking about. So I think it's time to do what I mostly do with your threads, which is leave them alone.

(Because everything that Town Heretic does is either for or to the left).

 

[GFR7]

Quote: Originally Posted by aCultureWarrior View Post

How could a society totally prevent gender confusion?



Without a doubt traditional roles by parents (if you're lucky enough to have a mom and dad in your home while growing up in this day and age) have an tremendous positive effect on gender identity, but as we've seen: traumatic experiences in childhood (sexual abuse, overbearing mother, absent father) frequently lead to homosexual desire; do you not believe that gender confused people were psychologically damaged during their childhood as well?

Yes, I do: But there should be less alienation, and there would be less sexual abuse, over-bearing mothers, absent fathers. Is this how the family was supposed to function? No. Why does it function so badly in so many cases? Culture. As Wang Bi said in antiquity, in the ancient I Ching, "When the father is a father and the mother a mother, the son a son, and a daughter a daughter...." - to him this was the building block of society.

The father is not supposed to behave like an egocentric little girl. The daughter is not supposed to have the aspirations of a middle-aged man. But these things our society encourages.

 

[aCultureWarrior]

Quote:
Originally Posted by aCultureWarrior

How could a society totally prevent gender confusion?

Without a doubt traditional roles by parents (if you're lucky enough to have a mom and dad in your home while growing up in this day and age) have an tremendous positive effect on gender identity, but as we've seen: traumatic experiences in childhood (sexual abuse, overbearing mother, absent father) frequently lead to homosexual desire; do you not believe that gender confused people were psychologically damaged during their childhood as well?

Yes, I do: But there should be less alienation, and there would be less sexual abuse, over-bearing mothers, absent fathers. Is this how the family was supposed to function? No. Why does it function so badly in so many cases? Culture. As Wang Bi said in antiquity, in the ancient I Ching, "When the father is a father and the mother a mother, the son a son, and a daughter a daughter...." - to him this was the building block of society.

The father is not supposed to behave like an egocentric little girl. The daughter is not supposed to have the aspirations of a middle-aged man. But these things our society encourages.

I've shown in the first three threads how we as a nation have come to this sad state that we're currently in :

* Alfred Kinsey and the sexualization of America.

*The breakdown of the traditional family by decriminalizing such things as adultery, cohabitation laws and legislating in favor of no-fault divorce.

*Sexual freedom/"the right to privacy" and the decriminalization of abortion.

*The gradual acceptance of sexual perversion starting with the American Psychiatric Association removing homosexuality from it's list of mental disorders, which lead to decriminalizing homosexuality in numerous States.

*Pornography laws no longer enforced.

*Lawrence v Texas: the federal ruling that opened the floodgates for the homosexual movement to indoctrinate children, redefine marriage, push transgenderism, take away parental rights (therapy for sexually/gender confused youth).

I've shown and continue to show what needs to be done:

*Become politically active/informed by electing God-fearing men and women into public office who through legislation will eventually recriminalize laws such as homosexuality, abortion, pornography and stop the sexual anarchists dead in their tracks.

*Take back our culture starting with our education system.

What's your plan?

or you are just flapping your lips to hear them move?

 

[alwight]

Clearly standards have been declining since they stopped drowning witches and burning heretics. lain:

 

[GFR7]

I've shown and continue to show what needs to be done:

*Become politically active/informed by electing God-fearing men and women into public office who through legislation will eventually recriminalize laws such as homosexuality, abortion, pornography and stop the sexual anarchists dead in their tracks.

*Take back our culture starting with our education system.

What's your plan?



or you are just flapping your lips to hear them move?

But the masses elect the opposite. They have numbers on their side. I've been hearing "We've got to take our schools back, get them out of the hands of liberals" since Jerry Falwell was ranting about this in 1988 on Cross Fire.

All you say above was proposed in the '70s, then the '80s, then the '90s, then in the W Bush years, then during the Obama years, and Santorum and Huckabee are still saying it. Yet things grow worse and worse and more and more outrageously left. Why has it gotten worse? Explain please.:bang:

 

[GFR7]

Clearly standards have been declining since they stopped drowning witches and burning heretics. lain:

:think: I knew you would see it this way. *blush* On some levels, progress has been good. But in other ways, really it's spawned insanity, some of it really unexpected. In any case, aCW's plan was proposed 40 years ago. lain:

 

[alwight]

All you say above was proposed in the '70s, then the '80s, then the '90s, then in the W Bush years, then during the Obama years, and Santorum and Huckabee are still saying it. Yet things grow worse and worse and more and more outrageously left. Why has it gotten worse? Explain please.:bang:

Apparently American liberals have never forgiven the oil barons for assassinating JFK and have been wreaking their terrible revenge ever since.:IA:

 

[GFR7]

Apparently American liberals have never forgiven the oil barons for assassinating JFK and have been wreaking their terrible revenge ever since.:IA:

:think:

 

[aCultureWarrior]

Quote: Originally posted by aCultureWarrior

What's your plan?
or you are just flapping your lips to hear them move?

But the masses elect the opposite. They have numbers on their side. I've been hearing "We've got to take our schools back, get them out of the hands of liberals" since Jerry Falwell was ranting about this in 1988 on Cross Fire.

All you say above was proposed in the '70s, then the '80s, then the '90s, then in the W Bush years, then during the Obama years, and Santorum and Huckabee are still saying it. Yet things grow worse and worse and more and more outrageously left.Why has it gotten worse? Explain please.

You ranted about American culture and the feminization of men and masculinization of women and I briefly explained how our nation has come to this and what needs to be done to return to a decent God-fearing society.

Again what is your plan to change things if you truly want to change them?

 

[aCultureWarrior]

Clearly standards have been declining since they stopped drowning witches and burning heretics. lain:

Let's not get started on the BDSM aspect of the LGBTQueer movement Al, I just ate dinner.

 

[aCultureWarrior]

Quote:
Originally Posted by alwight
Clearly standards have been declining since they stopped drowning witches and burning heretics.

:think: I knew you would see it this way. *blush* On some levels, progress has been good. But in other ways, really it's spawned insanity, some of it really unexpected. In any case, aCW's plan was proposed 40 years ago. lain:

I always like to hear about the "good progress" that the drag queens, bull dykes and fairies of the child indoctrinating/molesting LGBTQueer movement have brought to society.

Do share.

 

[alwight]

Let's not get started on the BDSM aspect of the LGBTQueer movement Al, I just ate dinner.

In the middle ages aCW you'd have been out there condemning witches to their fate and back in time for a hearty dinner.

 

[aCultureWarrior]

In the middle ages aCW you'd have been out there condemning witches to their fate and back in time for a hearty dinner.

The LGBTQueer movement: Bringing the Dark Ages back to western civilization.

A Perversion “Museum”? The Leather Archives & Museum, located in this nondescript building at 6418 N. Greenview Ave. in Chicago, glorifies homosexual sadomasochism and the most extreme and depraved sexual perversions invented by mankind—including incestuous pedophilia and (consensual) sexual “slavery.” The BDSM “museum” also caters to heterosexual sadomasochists.

http://americansfortruth.com/2015/0...friday-sadistic-museum-is-near-three-schools/

 

[GFR7]

Quote:
Originally Posted by alwight
Clearly standards have been declining since they stopped drowning witches and burning heretics.




I always like to hear about the "good progress" that the drag queens, bull dykes and fairies of the child indoctrinating/molesting LGBTQueer movement have brought to society.

Do share.

Not what I was speaking about, not at all.

 

[GFR7]

Quote: Originally posted by aCultureWarrior

What's your plan?
or you are just flapping your lips to hear them move?



You ranted about American culture and the feminization of men and masculinization of women and I briefly explained how our nation has come to this and what needs to be done to return to a decent God-fearing society.

Again what is your plan to change things if you truly want to change them?

I'm hoping for the natural saeculum of history to do it's work, pruning the excesses and reversing what is pernicious.

 

[TracerBullet]

By simplifying both culture and gender. How many of those crossing the US in covered wagons, and staking out their prairie land, and building log cabins, and planting gardens, and farming, raising babies , etc. do you suppose were cross-dressing and feeling like the other gender?

More than a few.