Why Homosexuality MUST Be Recriminalized! Part 3

[aCultureWarrior]

Quote:
Originally Posted by aCultureWarrior
It's called "ala carte Christianity". For instance: some of those that profess to be "Christian" claim that they are anti abortion, but defend the "deathstyle" we call homosexuality.

And that would be who?

Look a dozen or so pages back, there's a link showing a few that use Scripture to justify their immoral views. (Keep an eye out for these kinds: If they use the words "consenting adults", you know that they can't be a Christian).

Even you refuse to put them to death so aren't you defending them in a sense? It's not ala carte Christianity. It's Christian love. Big difference.

I'm basing that on Scripture from the New Testament as well as a couple of thousand years of legal precedence. I'll cover it in detail in the segment entitled "The 3 tenets of atheism".

Out of curiousity IMJ, there are many many homosexuals here on TOL (refer to my above comment that they use the words "consenting adults" frequently), how often do you witness the Word of God to them?

 

[IMJerusha]

Quote:
Originally Posted by aCultureWarrior
It's called "ala carte Christianity". For instance: some of those that profess to be "Christian" claim that they are anti abortion, but defend the "deathstyle" we call homosexuality.
Look a dozen or so pages back, there's a link showing a few that use Scripture to justify their immoral views. (Keep an eye out for these kinds: If they use the words "consenting adults", you know that they can't be a Christian).
I'm basing that on Scripture from the New Testament as well as a couple of thousand years of legal precedence. I'll cover it in detail in the segment entitled "The 3 tenets of atheism".
Out of curiousity IMJ, there are many many homosexuals here on TOL (refer to my above comment that they use the words "consenting adults" frequently), how often do you witness the Word of God to them?

I don't keep tabs on people and I don't push God down peoples throats. They know He's there. Every post I make here is a witness to Yeshua. Not always as positive as they should be but I do try. I consider anyone who claims Yeshua as their Lord to be a Christian and I trust Ruach HaKodesh to lead them as He sees fit. Apparently how He sees fit is not acceptable to you. That's not my problem, it's yours.

 

[THall]

I don't keep tabs on people and I don't push God down peoples throats. They know He's there. Every post I make here is a witness to Yeshua. Not always as positive as they should be but I do try. I consider anyone who claims Yeshua as their Lord to be a Christian and I trust Ruach HaKodesh to lead them as He sees fit. Apparently how He sees fit is not acceptable to you. That's not my problem, it's yours.

You are one lousy
witness lady! If that
is your best, God
does not need your
type of 'witness' as
you name yourself to be.

 

[The 5 solas]

If they use the words "consenting adults", you know that they can't be a Christian).

I might have seen somewhere that you were married, perhaps actually spawned children. If this is the case, did that not make the two of you to be consenting adults? I am just curious when or if this phrase is to be used.

 

[Heterodoxical]

God told you why they
and other types of
sinners should be
put to death,
why do you think
you know better?

Do you even know what you are talking about?

You are quoting a law given to ONE SPECIFIC PEOPLE. No Gentile was ever EVER EVER under the whole of that covenant. Well, except the ones that left Egypt with Moses perhaps.

Further, in todays Church that Christ runs, you are established after the order of Melchizedek. That means you live under the PRECOVENENTAL days, before Jews and before Gentiles even existed.

Therefore your comment about putting people to death is meaningless.

There are umpteen other abomination/sins mentioned in the Bible, why is this the only one people hyperreact to?

There were other's that got you put to death as well, but you don't care about those, at all.

Is there one particular Religion you hate? Jews muslims? Is there one particular race you hate????
Is there one ANYTHING from ANY GROUP that you are also a bigot towards?

 

[SammyT]

The exchange here is pitiful...

 

[Christian Liberty]

I might have seen somewhere that you were married, perhaps actually spawned children. If this is the case, did that not make the two of you to be consenting adults? I am just curious when or if this phrase is to be used.

Yeah, but that would be called "consistency", which requires brainpower

 

[Heterodoxical]

To understand how far this society has fallen,

Oh hogwash, there was "bad humor" long before Christ lived, this isn't new.

Here is a T-shirt openly sold today as simply 'funny'.

It does have a chuckle in there....

But ask yourself.

What would Moses have thought of an Israelite wearing a robe with this slogan,

What does that matter unless you live under the levitical laws, still. And if you follow Christ, you are not near the laws.

or what Jesus would have thought of a Greek openly displaying
this attitude about pedophilia or pederastry or sodomy in a public park
in the daytime where children play...

It would have occasionally occurred in the public baths in the areas he traveled. That isn't "news". It was open in that society, and while not the norm, was not unusual. Ever hear of Caligula????

Suggesting because someone is GAY they are a pedophile, is a nasty, bigoted comment.
MOST PEOPHILES ARE HETEROSEXUAL. If you wish to make generalizations, you are more logically assumed to be a pedophile than a gay man. Have you told your church you are a pedophile yet? Want me too?

In Sodom no doubt this would also be considered a harmless joke:

Sodom wasn't destroyed for being homosexual. Study your Bible.

New International Version So Lot went out and spoke to his sons-in-law, who were pledged to marry his daughters. He said, "Hurry and get out of this place, because the LORD is about to destroy the city!" But his sons-in-law thought he was joking. Genesis 19:14

Yeah, eisegesis much? Proof texts. Pick and cherry pick, and choose and search for abuse you can do to make your case in Scripture.

Sodom was destroyed because it was a self serving, inner focused on self, society. That's what scripture says, when you read all of it, and not just what is convenient.

DO YOU KNOW what IS a biblical issue??? Libel, like your post was.
Also, campaigning against gay marriage. That's quite literally Anti Christ.

 

[Heterodoxical]

Welcome back to the thread Kitty. With the increase in AIDS amongst those that engage in homosexual behavior

It's growing faster among heterosexuals... does that mean heterosexuals are MORE WRONG than the gay population is? Or is this simply proof your claims are bogus and mean nothing....
btw, already posted the proof.

 

[TracerBullet]

God told you why they
and other types of
sinners should be
put to death,
why do you think
you know better?

he also said thou shall not kill

 

[Christian Liberty]

Quote:
Originally Posted by aCultureWarrior
I think someone better pull the plank out of his self righteous eye before he goes talking about the speck in another's.



God has a set of universal moral laws for all of mankind (it would be nice if those who call themselves believers started abiding by them). If you think otherwise, you're an "anarchist".

Interestingly enough, I am an "anarchist" according to some and yet I agree with the bolded statement.

I believe in being allowed to raise my family without wickedness all around us.

Leviticus 20:13

I believe in 1 Corinthians 5:11-13

 

[IMJerusha]

The exchange here is pitiful...

You're gettin' that, are ya? Hang on!

 

[IMJerusha]

It's growing faster among heterosexuals... does that mean heterosexuals are MORE WRONG than the gay population is? Or is this simply proof your claims are bogus and mean nothing....
btw, already posted the proof.

It's quite possible considering the liberal proclivity to proclaim the sin of homosexuality an acceptable lifestyle.

 

[aCultureWarrior]

Quote:
Originally Posted by aCultureWarrior
If they use the words "consenting adults", you know that they can't be a Christian).

I might have seen somewhere that you were married, perhaps actually spawned children. If this is the case, did that not make the two of you to be consenting adults? I am just curious when or if this phrase is to be used.

I'm a muzzie, we only need the father's consent.

 

[aCultureWarrior]

Quote: Originally posted by aCultureWarrior

God has a set of universal moral laws for all of mankind (it would be nice if those who call themselves believers started abiding by them). If you think otherwise, you're an "anarchist".

Interestingly enough, I am an "anarchist" according to some and yet I agree with the bolded statement.

You and your cult are sexual anarchists Jr.

http://americansfortruth.com/2013/1...in-wnd-whistleblower-issue-on-gay-revolution/

 

[aCultureWarrior]

Quote:
Originally Posted by aCultureWarrior
Welcome back to the thread Kitty. With the increase in AIDS amongst those that engage in homosexual behavior

It's growing faster among heterosexuals... does that mean heterosexuals are MORE WRONG than the gay population is? Or is this simply proof your claims are bogus and mean nothing....
btw, already posted the proof.

Now that I think of it, when the congregation was leaving church the other day, our pastor said:

"And be sure to get tested!"

On a serious note:

CDC: HIV Down in General Population but Surging with Gay, Bisexual Males

July 20, 2014

A new report from the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention states that although the annual diagnosis rate of HIV has dropped by one-third in the general population, the percentage is increasing among young gay and bisexual males.

HIV, the virus that causes AIDS, has been dropping among heterosexuals, drug users, and women, but the rate for young gay and bisexual males has risen over 100%.

Co-author Amy Lansky, deputy director for surveillance, epidemiology, and laboratory sciences at the CDC's Division of HIV/AIDS Prevention, said that because the AIDS epidemic was first reported in the 1980s, young people are inured to the disease’s preponderance. She said, "It's been more than 30 years since the first cases were reported. It's harder to maintain that sense of urgency."

To make matters worse, the cases studied in the CDC report only dealt with those actually diagnosed with HIV, and health officials estimate there are many more cases where people have the infection unknowingly. Another problem is that the data collected does not include the date when the disease was contracted, which makes determining trends of the disease difficult to pinpoint.

Lansky admitted that the increased occurrences of HIV among young gay and bisexual males are "a considerable problem." She said 1.1 million people in the U.S. are estimated to have contracted HIV and added that 16% of that number—roughly 176,000 people—don’t know they have the disease...

Dr. David Margolis, an AIDS specialist at the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill, wants to give HIV drugs to that same population even if they have not contracted the disease. He said, "The use of antivirals to prevent HIV infection is fraught with many challenges, but if there is a more than doubling of new infections in one demographic, perhaps something needs to be done."

Others claim giving the drug to those who are not infected would further encourage promiscuous sex.

Read more: http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2014/07/19/CDC-HIV-Way-Up-with-Gay-and-Bisexual-Males

 

[Christian Liberty]

You think I'm in the gay rights movement, aCW? Really?

You just get dumber and dumber. Keep making your fellow gang members in blue look bad, moron. I relish it.

 

[Heterodoxical]

Quote:
Originally Posted by aCultureWarrior
Welcome back to the thread Kitty. With the increase in AIDS amongst those that engage in homosexual behavior




Now that I think of it, when the congregation was leaving church the other day, our pastor said:

"And be sure to get tested!"

On a serious note:

CDC: HIV Down in General Population but Surging with Gay, Bisexual Males

July 20, 2014

A new report from the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention states that although the annual diagnosis rate of HIV has dropped by one-third in the general population, the percentage is increasing among young gay and bisexual males.

HIV, the virus that causes AIDS, has been dropping among heterosexuals, drug users, and women, but the rate for young gay and bisexual males has risen over 100%.

Co-author Amy Lansky, deputy director for surveillance, epidemiology, and laboratory sciences at the CDC's Division of HIV/AIDS Prevention, said that because the AIDS epidemic was first reported in the 1980s, young people are inured to the disease’s preponderance. She said, "It's been more than 30 years since the first cases were reported. It's harder to maintain that sense of urgency."

To make matters worse, the cases studied in the CDC report only dealt with those actually diagnosed with HIV, and health officials estimate there are many more cases where people have the infection unknowingly. Another problem is that the data collected does not include the date when the disease was contracted, which makes determining trends of the disease difficult to pinpoint.

Lansky admitted that the increased occurrences of HIV among young gay and bisexual males are "a considerable problem." She said 1.1 million people in the U.S. are estimated to have contracted HIV and added that 16% of that number—roughly 176,000 people—don’t know they have the disease...

Dr. David Margolis, an AIDS specialist at the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill, wants to give HIV drugs to that same population even if they have not contracted the disease. He said, "The use of antivirals to prevent HIV infection is fraught with many challenges, but if there is a more than doubling of new infections in one demographic, perhaps something needs to be done."

Others claim giving the drug to those who are not infected would further encourage promiscuous sex.

Read more: http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2014/07/19/CDC-HIV-Way-Up-with-Gay-and-Bisexual-Males

HEY, I'm gonna give you this one. You have better information than I offered.

So, since your sexual preference isn't a factor in how a disease is passed, I suggest the better answer is simply make it where Gay people can be legally married, which has nothing to do with the Church, and encourage less promiscuity, rather than driving them to have relationships hidden from the world which encourages promiscuity.

You propose the loss of lives to stds is important and should be avoided, so that's the best way to avoid it.

Making it illegal isn't going to stop gay people from having sex, anymore than sodomy laws kept married couples from having oral and anal sex.... That's daft to suggest it would.

So we agree, yes?

 

[Christian Liberty]

Or better yet, leave marriages to someone other than the government

I don't agree with gay marriage, government has no right to define OR redefine marriage.

 

[Heterodoxical]

It's quite possible considering the liberal proclivity to proclaim the sin of homosexuality an acceptable lifestyle.

Man, so much denseness so little time.

What's quite possible?

Here's a newsflash for you... Admitting that the STATE has the right to determine who is married, (your pastor says, "by the powers vested in me by the state of....") and getting out of the way and letting the state do what is right for their people God appointed them to protect, does not approve of a lifestyle.

You have tax cheats you don't deny rights to. You have liars, adulterers, shall I go on? You don't care about their lifestyles, but this ONE seems to get all the church all seriously worked up and excited.... Why do gay marriages excite you so much?