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What you really mean TB is that an organization that successfully operated for 37 years and had over 250 local ministries in the US and Canada and over 150 ministries in 17 other countries and still operates under the name of "Exodus Global Alliance" shut down after intense pressure from the LGBTQueer/NAMBLA movement and it's supposed leader (Alan Chambers) realized that since therapy didn't work for him, it couldn't have worked for anyone else?
No, i mean they shut down after admitting that reparative therapy is a fraud and apologized for the harm they caused.
Yet Exodus International operated successfully for 37 years, starting back in 1976 when it's most recent so called "leader" who not only sold out God but all of those brave people who have been able to beat homosexual behavior and desires was only 4 years old.
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Again, success is defined by what the patient wants out of the therapy.
If you define success as just anything then you can make meaningless claims such as an organization that successfully operated for 37 years.
Of course your LGBTQueer/NAMBLA movements definition of success is that 101% of those people who attend SOCE therapy have their same sex desires changed, but when those that were successful testify that they have, they're nothing but a bunch of LIARS! LIARS! LIARS!
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I just can't imagine the pain that you're going through TB when you hear about all of those people who have successfully changed their desires and behavior. Tell us a little bit about your unsuccessful attempts in doing so and why you just didn't keep on trying until you found the right therapy.
I know it must be painful for you to think of all those people abducted by aliens yet year after year you wait, hopeful that a passing UFO will take notice of you, living in your mother's basement, and take pity on you and abduct you. Don't loose faith, they will come for you someday, all those testimonies about alien abduction prove that such things happen all the time.
Seriously TB, is your LGBTQueer/NAMBLA movement now comparing happily married men and women with children who have left homosexuality behind with aliens, or that just your pathetic attempt at an analogy?
"Today, by the grace of God, I am no longer “gay” but happily married to my beautiful wife for almost 18 years. I am also the father of our two precious children, a boy and a girl.
I no longer struggle whatsoever with homosexuality – and I am the heterosexual man that God created me to be".
https://www.movieguide.org/news-articles/bullied-to-death-are-christians-to-blame.html
Tell us again that people like Stephen Bennett are a bunch of LIARS! LIARS! LIARS! TB.
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As has the previous head of NARTH, Dr. Joseph Nicolosi
http://josephnicolosi.com/
Then let's take a look at his statistics on "therapy" drop out rates...um...well that doesn't seem to be in your link. how about statistics recidivism....no, nothing there either. maybe we can just look at a simple statistic like how many gays enter into Nicolosi's program in a given year...well shucks, no information on that either
Just think of how even
more successful these organizations would be if we lived in a society once again that frowned upon homosexuality and embraced decency.
Think of all of the little boys and girls that wouldn't even have to go through therapy if the pedophiles and pederasts of your LGBTQueer/NAMBLA movement were where they should be:
Either locked up or in a cemetery.
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Good. Let's start off by talking about how the former head of the largest homosexual therapy organization in the world (Alan Chambers) doesn't think repentance of sin is something that needs to be done by those who engage in homosexual behavior. What are your thoughts on that subject TB?
So what?
Maybe he was to busy trying to figure out why no one at Exodus never actually changed sexual orientation
"So what?" Alan Chambers denies that repentance of sin is necessary to enter Heaven (but only for those who engage in homosexual behavior) and you as someone who calls himself a "Christian" (cough cough cough) says "so what?"
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