Why Homosexuality MUST Be Recriminalized! Part 3

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aCultureWarrior

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But they are atheists.

Why be concerned about unbelievers?

It's a weakness that I have for my fellow human beings.

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TulipBee

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It's a weakness that I have for my fellow human beings.

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Love 'em

Proclaim the gospel.

Recognize you fulfilled instruction to proclaim the gospel.

God does the rest by choosing only some.

Then we let them sin the way they were born to do..

Elects move on.

God didn't ask man to be that repetitive to proclaim the gospel. They heard but ignore it.
 

aCultureWarrior

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Love 'em

Proclaim the gospel.

Recognize you fulfilled instruction to proclaim the gospel.

God does the rest by choosing only some.

Then we let them sin the way they were born to do..

Elects move on.

God didn't ask man to be that repetitive to proclaim the gospel. They heard but ignore it.

Surely you don't think that God is an anarchist do you TulipBee?
 

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Surely you don't think that God is an anarchist do you TulipBee?

anarchists are people who want to live under their own authority. political authority is what they are against, and some will go to extreme measures.

God don't need to go to extreme measures to be pleased by His own pleasure.
 

TulipBee

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Many of them will say they believe in a god, but perhaps they don't have your special hotline to the one true god?

However, unlike them, I really am an atheist. :plain:


The elects have that special hotline to God . They are on God's predistined preplans.

This plans were already drawn out.

All mankind are atheists. You're not the only one. Read them for yourself:
It is man who:

- is deceitful and desperately sick (Jer. 17:9).
- is full of evil (Mark 7:21-23).
- loves darkness rather than light (John 3:19).
- is unrighteous, does not understand, does not seek for God (Rom. 3:10-12).
- is helpless and ungodly (Rom. 5:6).
- is dead in his trespasses and sins (Eph. 2:1).
- is by nature a child of wrath (Eph. 2:3).
- cannot understand spiritual things (1 Cor. 2:14).
- is a slave of sin (Rom. 6:16-20).
 

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Come on Art, you can do better than that. I pointed out the "fix" for things that are the result of your "consensual adult relationships" (disease, abortion, birth defects), the least you could do is give a plug for condoms.

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Whereas you apparently can't. According to you, anyone who's concerned about disease/birth defects and hope that such things as cancer can be eradicated is a 'Nazi' anyway, although you make a right dope of yourself when you try to push that argument to be fair.

Oh, merry Christmas btw. :)
 

alwight

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The elects have that special hotline to God . They are on God's predistined preplans.
I can believe that that is what some people might tend to dogmatically believe. I tend to believe that they would probably be deluded in that belief.

This plans were already drawn out.

All mankind are atheists. You're not the only one. Read them for yourself:
It is man who:

- is deceitful and desperately sick (Jer. 17:9).
- is full of evil (Mark 7:21-23).
- loves darkness rather than light (John 3:19).
- is unrighteous, does not understand, does not seek for God (Rom. 3:10-12).
- is helpless and ungodly (Rom. 5:6).
- is dead in his trespasses and sins (Eph. 2:1).
- is by nature a child of wrath (Eph. 2:3).
- cannot understand spiritual things (1 Cor. 2:14).
- is a slave of sin (Rom. 6:16-20).
No, that is just your version of ancient scripture, and which imo "ain't necessarily so" according to the scripture of Ira Gershwin.
 

TulipBee

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I can believe that that is what some people might tend to dogmatically believe. I tend to believe that they would probably be deluded in that belief.

No, that is just your version of ancient scripture, and which imo "ain't necessarily so" according to the scripture of Ira Gershwin.

I'll stick with the ancient bible. I'm not so sure about your urantia books just yet.
 

aCultureWarrior

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Surely you don't think that God is an anarchist do you TulipBee?

anarchists are people who want to live under their own authority. political authority is what they are against, and some will go to extreme measures.

Correct, that's why I'm wondering why you wrote this:

Love 'em

Proclaim the gospel.

Recognize you fulfilled instruction to proclaim the gospel.

God does the rest by choosing only some.

Then we let them sin the way they were born to do..

Elects move on.

God didn't ask man to be that repetitive to proclaim the gospel. They heard but ignore it.
http://www.theologyonline.com/forums/showpost.php?p=4161139&postcount=4305

Surely you're not saying that "we" as a society should allow robbers, murderers and sexual anarchists (abortionists, homosexuals, pornographers) to continue to sin ?

If you are, that would make you an anarchist.

God don't need to go to extreme measures to be pleased by His own pleasure.

Whatever that means.
 

aCultureWarrior

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Come on Art, you can do better than that. I pointed out the "fix" for things that are the result of your "consensual adult relationships" (disease, abortion, birth defects), the least you could do is give a plug for condoms.


Whereas you apparently can't. According to you, anyone who's concerned about disease/birth defects and hope that such things as cancer can be eradicated is a 'Nazi' anyway, although you make a right dope of yourself when you try to push that argument to be fair.

Along with the homosexual/sado-masochist/pedophile Alfred Kinsey, Planned Parenthood founder Margaret Sanger was one of America's biggest sexual anarchists. As I'd shown in a couple of posts in part 1 and part 2, Sanger had close ties to Adolf Hitler.

Margaret Sanger, Sterilization, and the Swastika

...Did Ernst Rudin advocate sterilization of Americans?

Three months before the German 'sterilization law' was passed, Rudin's "Eugenic Sterilization: An Urgent Need" article was published in the journal (BCR) Margaret Sanger started and continued to influence until its demise in 1940.

In addressing an American audience Rudin is much more circumspect with his choice of words:

The following essay is concerned only with sterilization as a a voluntary practice, that is, when undertaken with the consent of the patient himself or his statutory guardians......

But as the essay wears on, the mask begins to slip:

My experience has led me to the conclusion that systematic and careful propaganda should be undertaken where sterilization is advisable. Such propaganda should, of course, be gradual and should be directed in the first instance at the medical directors in institutions and schools, medical officers of health, and finally at private practitioners.....

Margaret Sanger corresponded with Ernst Rudin and never once renounced his eugenic views.

The Planned Parenthood connection - Who is Lothrop Stoddard?

Margaret Sanger appointed Lothrop Stoddard as a board member of the Birth Control League (the forerunner of Planned Parenthood).
What did Stoddard think about Nazi eugenics? Author Stefan Kuhl writes (5):

When the Nazis came to power, argued Stoddard, they started to increase "both the size and the quality of the population." They coupled initiatives designed to encourage "sound" citizens to reproduce with a "drastic curb of the defective elements." (7) Stoddard personally witnessed how the Nazis were "weeding out the worst strains in the Germanic stock in a scientific and truly humanitarian way."

Lothrop Stoddard and the "Jews Problem"

It is no secret that Adolf Hitler and the Nazis favored Jews be more subject to induced abortion and sterilization than other groups. Stefan Kuhl writes (pp. 61-62):

He [Lothrop Stoddard] even met personally with Adolf Hitler. William L. Shirer, an American colleague who had been in Germany since 1934, complained that the Reich minister for propaganda [Joseph Goebbels] gave special preference to Stoddard because his writings on racial subject were "featured in Nazi school textbooks."(8)

Kuhl continues:

Stoddard claimed in 1940 that the "Jew problem" is "already settled in principle and soon to be settled in fact by the physical elimination of the Jews themselves from the Third Reich."


Read more: http://www.spectacle.org/997/richmond.html

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Oh, merry Christmas btw. :)

Remember Christ is the reason for the season Art. Take the advice I gave to GFR7 a few posts back and start anew.
 

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Many of them will say they believe in a god, but perhaps they don't have your special hotline to the one true god?

However, unlike them, I really am an atheist. :plain:

You have no other choice but to be an atheist. That s why I don't try to convince you to save yourself like the arminian-pelagian-like self claimed so called "Christians" do. They're ruining themselves with boasting.

I treat you like a normal friend. I've already done proclaiming as the general call. Something everyone hears. Only the elects gets the effectual call. Only God does that part. God saves some. Others that are not choose only damn themselves like the rest of mankind does. They have no other choice but to do what they're born to do, sin
 

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Surely you don't think that God is an anarchist do you TulipBee?



Correct, that's why I'm wondering why you wrote this:



Surely you're not saying that "we" as a society should allow robbers, murderers and sexual anarchists (abortionists, homosexuals, pornographers) to continue to sin ?


If you are, that would make you an anarchist.



Whatever that means.

Muslims don't allow homosexuality and Christians claim museums are godless. So atheist don't allow murder either. Your mixing state and government.

The whatever that means to you means that God chooses whom He wants to save according to His own pleasure, not man's and even before man is born and not having that chance to choose or reject.

Whatever reject means to an elect.

Reject is an atheist's terminology. Only the atheist can reject like the rest of mankind does.
 

alwight

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You have no other choice but to be an atheist. That s why I don't try to convince you to save yourself like the arminian-pelagian-like self claimed so called "Christians" do. They're ruining themselves with boasting.
We seem to be revisiting my earlier comment here, but maybe that's a good thing? ;)
I presume that you are a Calvinist and that you believe as you do because over the years that is what your sect has taught to you?
...But who knows, perhaps Calvinism, of all the many varying religious beliefs around, has actually nailed it, unlike all the others?
You are of course entitled to your beliefs TulipBee, just as I am that in actually you have no greater ability to know any ultimate truths than I do or any other mere mortal being has. In all probability imo you are just as hopelessly wrong and all at sea as anyone else is.
But if you have convinced yourself otherwise and it makes you happy then so be it since I anyway can offer no one, not even a selected few, any hope of any continued life after death. :idunno:

I treat you like a normal friend. I've already done proclaiming as the general call. Something everyone hears. Only the elects gets the effectual call. Only God does that part. God saves some. Others that are not choose only damn themselves like the rest of mankind does. They have no other choice but to do what they're born to do, sin
As an atheist I've never had any problem accepting my own personal eventual demise and oblivion, it's what I expect. Sometimes however I think it might be nicer to live out this life under a delusion of there being a personal future existence for me after death, but I don't. Believe away TulipBee, by all means believe away. ;)
 
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