why do liberals ALWAYS take the side of the vile?

resodko

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You may be aware that some on the pro-choice side of the table do not believe that an unborn fetus qualifies as a baby.




which is insane

28 week fetus in utero:

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"not a baby" - ok to kill it






28 week preemie:

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is a baby - killing it would be murder, instead we spend hundreds of thousands of dollars on intensive care






insane
 

Zakath

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which is insane...

Technology allows us to do many things, including extension of viability longer before "normal" 38-40 weeks of pregnancy. So science has, in effect, moved the bar for the argument.

Those who refuse to see what you illustrated, are guilty of logical inconsistency, or perhaps over-zealous adherence to outdated arguments, but I don't think they're insane.
 

Zakath

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Of course, that is the definition of left wing. The opposite of right is both left and wrong.

Except when "right" is wrong.

[thinking about historical conservative dedication to the preservation of human slavery as one example...]
 

genuineoriginal

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Except when "right" is wrong.

[thinking about historical conservative dedication to the preservation of human slavery as one example...]

I see you are really asking about Democrats.

150 Years Since Civil War And Democrats Still Party Of Slavery

The Democrat platform of the 1860’s was a pro-slavery policy that sought to keep those bound in the disgusting practice of human bondage to another. They fought to keep it in exsisting states and actually fought to force its spread to states that were either anti slavery or sought statehood in the Union and did not the practice of slavery.​

Yes, Democrats and other liberals ALWAYS take the side of the vile, as the OP states.
 

Rusha

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You may be aware that some on the pro-choice side of the table do not believe that an unborn fetus qualifies as a baby. So their frame of reference is different than yours. To them it's not "baby murder".

Killing babies is generally considered morally wrong, yes; but may not indicate mental illness. People do such things for many reasons.

A similar argument gets applied to capital punishment by those who are against it. Their rhetoric is similar to yours, classifying capital punishment as murder and all murder as evidence of insanity.

Personally, I think it's a weak argument.

Nope ... doesn't work. We know both are human beings. One is innocent and doesn't deserve death. The other is not.
 

genuineoriginal

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Neither political party, Republican or Democrat, is monolithic in their social views. There are liberals, moderates and conservatives in both parties.

I admit that it is difficult to find conservatives in the Republican party, but it is almost impossible to find a conservative in the Democrat party.
 

Zakath

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I admit that it is difficult to find conservatives in the Republican party, but it is almost impossible to find a conservative in the Democrat party.

I imagine it depends on how hard you look. If we succumb to confirmation bias, it's incredibly difficult to find such examples. In the 20th century there were quite a few conservative Democrats... George Wallace comes easily to mind. More recently someone like Walter Minnick (D-ID) was actually endorsed by the Tea Party in his latest election campaign... pretty rare event.

They're around, just uncommon.
 

Nick M

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Except when "right" is wrong.

Then name an example from history. By definition, right is not wrong. The more evil you practice or support the more left you are. Think of it like scoring in golf. The more points you score, the more left you are.
 

The Barbarian

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[thinking about historical conservative dedication to the preservation of human slavery as one example...]
I see you are really asking about Democrats.

Yeh, democrats were the conservative party, back then. Republicans were the liberals. Then Roosevelt moved the party to the left, and Truman integrated the armed services, and then in the 60s, democrats got behind the voters rights act and school integration, and all the southern democrats ran to the republican party.

Yes, Democrats and other liberals ALWAYS take the side of the vile, as the OP states.

Predictable that you'd consider equal rights for everyone as a vile thing.
 

Nick M

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Democrat and Republican do not define right and wrong (liberal). Although Lincoln's Republican party was the anti-slavery (human trafficking) party.
 

musterion

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Yeh, democrats were the conservative party, back then. Republicans were the liberals.
Wrong. Stupid and wrong.

Democrats fought abolition.

Democrats formed the antebellum KKK.

Democrats have always pushed for anti-Constitutional statism in the U.S. Wilson is possibly the single worst example, followed by FDR.

Democrats led by Johnson sought to rechain "negroes" on the mental plantation of the welfare state to keep them voting Democrat in perpetuity.

We'll thank you to shut up about not-your-country's history, about which you are a fool. You're welcome you're not speaking German or Russian, thanks to us. But you're on your own with the Muslims and you're going to lose that one. Buy a prayer rug...XXXL from the look of it.
 

Daniel1611

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The conservatives support the REAL victims like the bankers, the oil companies, the pharmaceutical companies, and foreign dictators.

In realty, the Republicans and Democrats both support them. ...They support them with our tax dollars.
 

The Barbarian

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Yeh, democrats were the conservative party, back then. Republicans were the liberals.

Wrong. Stupid and wrong.

Denial probably won't help you. I lived through those times, and you're just making up stories.

Democrats fought abolition. Democrats formed the antebellum KKK. But then, the democrats took a turn to the left and supported civil rights, school integration, and voting rights for blacks. And of course, the racists went to the republican party. Nixon played it perfectly. His adviser Kevin Phillips even said the republicans should not fight civil rights laws too much, because it would increase the number of southern racists who would become republicans.

Democrats led by Johnson sought to rechain "negroes" on the mental plantation of the welfare state to keep them voting Democrat in perpetuity.

Very telling that you consider making sure that blacks being able to vote, as being "chained." You're exposing yourself, and your agenda.

We'll thank you to shut up about not-your-country's history,

You're getting spittle on the screen again. Calm yourself. It might be frustrating now, but you won't feel so embarrassed tomorrow.

about which you are a fool. You're welcome you're not speaking German or Russian, thanks to us.

My father actually fought in that war. He lived with the pain from a shell splinter they couldn't get out of his brain, all his life. You're just a wannabee, pretending to be a patriot. You aren't fit to shine the shoes of a real patriot.

But you're on your own with the Muslims

Of course, it wouldn't be a Musty temper tantrum without a little religious bigotry tossed in, would it?

and you're going to lose that one.

I just looked at the list of terrorists killed by our forces in the last few years. Doesn't seem like we're losing. And since Muslims are converting to Christianity at an increasing rate, such that the only way they persist is by more of them moving here, you're paranoid fantasies are wrong there, too.

Hope you get better, Musty.
 

genuineoriginal

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Yeh, democrats were the conservative party, back then. Republicans were the liberals. Then Roosevelt moved the party to the left, and Truman integrated the armed services, and then in the 60s, democrats got behind the voters rights act and school integration, and all the southern democrats ran to the republican party.
You forgot to mention how the Kennedy brothers were assassinated by the Democrat party because they were too conservative.
:carryon:

Predictable that you'd consider equal rights for everyone as a vile thing.
The child being aborted is denied an equal right to life.
That is a vile thing.
 
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