ECT Who is saved?

[patrick jane]

I actually find all views ever fascinating. Each actually challenging one as to one's own understanding.

Really?

Most of my posts will tend to be more about the grace-lessness and shameful high-fiving of such towards one another, against anyone who opposes MAD in general.

Most of your posts, Really?

 

[God's Truth]

NAMES.

Who here teaches that?

Name them.

I have heard the madists here teach that.

 

[God's Truth]

Ephesians 3:6 That the Gentiles should be fellowheirs, and of the same body, and partakers of his promise in Christ by the gospel:

It is in the Old Testament scriptures that the Gentiles would be included. Paul even quotes the scriptures from the Old Testament saying so.

 

[Danoh]

Yes, Trump drone :chuckle:

Rom. 5:8.

 

[Danoh]

It is in the Old Testament scriptures that the Gentiles would be included. Paul even quotes the scriptures from the Old Testament saying so.

GT - heir meant prior Gentiles with other, later Gentiles :chuckle:

Rom. 5:8.

 

[God's Truth]

GT - heir meant prior Gentiles with other, later Gentiles :chuckle:

Rom. 5:8.

Must be!!! haaaa

 

[Danoh]

I have heard the madists here teach that.

Yep - several of them (not all MADs on here, though).

Romans 5:8.

 

[Danoh]

Must be!!! haaaa

I was joking about it, but that is what she and some of her pals on here are rambling on about - two different kinds of Gentiles as the fellow heirs in that passage.

Rom. 5:8.

 

[God's Truth]

I was joking about it, but that is what she and some of her pals on here are rambling on about - two different kinds of Gentiles as the fellow heirs in that passage.

Rom. 5:8.

There was much truth said in that jest.

 

[God's Truth]

Yep - several of them (not all MADs on here, though).

Romans 5:8.

I have heard it myself and, strange how the ones saying it don't step up and claim it.

That has happened more than once about other topics concerning the madists.

 

[musterion]

To what end, exactly?

So you made it up. That's slander.

 

[oatmeal]

Are you blind? I gave you scriptures.


I give you scriptures and you resort to some false teachers mantra.



I gave you scriptures proving it is.



God's words are plainly written. Believe.

Yes, you gave scriptures.

Thanks.

However, since you do not distinguish between works, grace, gift, inheritance, rewards,and wages it is clear you do not

a. understand the verses the you posted

b. are privately interpreting them

c. don't care what they say, you think you are smarter than God and the holy men of God that God gave that revelation to

d. all of the above.

Right now , I would say that "d" is the correct answer

 

[turbosixx]

If is not always a conditional and even here is clearly qualified with the UNLESS...

I looked at the Greek Interlinear and in this case it is conditional. The "unless" further supports the condition of why they would not have held fast to the word Paul had given them.

 

[turbosixx]

Did you ever look at the book of Joel in its context and its entirety?

I haven't had the time. Still working on that house.

I did look at your comments and I didn't see the relevance because it fits my current understanding.

 

[turbosixx]

Paul does NOT call it the gospel of the grace of God. He is speaking about the gospel of Christ, which is clear in the text.

In the context he calls it the gospel of God that he was set apart for.
Rom. 1:1 Paul, a servant of Jesus Christ, called to be an apostle, separated unto the gospel of God,

Then he later says he wants to preach it to them then calls it the gospel of Christ.
1:15 So, as much as in me is, I am ready to preach the gospel to you that are at Rome also. 16 For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek.


Are you telling me he was set apart for one and also preaches different gospels?

 

[turbosixx]

Ephesians 3:6 That the Gentiles should be fellowheirs, and of the same body, and partakers of his promise in Christ by the gospel:

I agree.

 

[turbosixx]

Why did you break up the phrase of "the dispensation of the grace of God" that RD made mention?

I just want to know what is his definition of grace. Then we can look at dispensations.

 

[turbosixx]

Nope, that salvation there in that passage in 1 Cor. 15 is salvation from the error some had attempted to inject into their beliefs - the error that Christ had not risen from the dead.

So what would happen if they continued in that error?

 

[turbosixx]

Paul said salvation is by faith and absolutely not of works.

Where?

 

[musterion]

Is your asserted bad memory really that bad these days. I hope not; that kind of memory loss is obviously quite a day to day irritant for many.

Perhaps, to those without the grace to bear with my infirmity.