WatchmanOnTheWall, this is addressed to Robert Pate. However it is also for your attention.
The actual quote is:
Hebrews: 9 King James Version (KJV)
22 And almost all things are by the law purged with blood; and without shedding of blood is no remission.
Robert Pate is being dishonest. The revelation, which Robert Pate quoted, does not say what Robert Pate says which is, "Without the shedding of blood there is no remission of sins".
The above revelations simply described a Jewish tradition, that was based on the law (i.e. the old flawed Mosaic covenant and Mosaic ideas). This law is the killing of animals as blood sacrifice for the forgiveness of sin. This law is not even one of the ten commandments. Therefore it is not even one of laws which the Jews held to be supreme. It is simply an ordinary Jewish law . . . and no one will argue that it is a Jewish law.
However, Robert Pate is expanding the above to include killing Jesus as a blood sacrifice for the forgiveness of sin. This is opposed to and a transgression of the 'thou shall not kill' commandments. Clearly that idea is all foolishness. It is all contradictory. However no one will argue that it is a Jewish law.
The Jews of 2000 odd years ago, were violent and evil. They transgress their own laws, the ten commandments, to suit their convenience. Those with sin would routinely stone adulterers to death.
Here we have Robert Pate honoring a Jewish law that is not even one of the ten commandments. This is a secondary Jewish law which is the killing of animals as a blood sacrifice for the forgiveness of sin. In fact Robert Pate moved the original Jewish law further, to include killing Jesus as a blood sacrifice for the forgiveness of sin. And it does not seem to bother Robert Pate that this is a transgression of the 'thou shall not kill' commandment.
Isn't Robert Pate foolish to make-up, buy into and/or so forcefully parrot and promote, such serious contradiction and foolishness?
Seekers of truth must identify deceivers.
The following revelation from the Holy KJV N.T. (the New covenant) says that, that Jewish tradition (of killing animals as a blood sacrifice for the forgiveness of sin), is flawed.
It does not work. It is foolish. It is dead works. It is all delusion/illusions on the path of the Jews and their law. The Jews were simply fooling-up themselves with these killing of animals, as blood sacrifice for the forgiveness of sin:
Hebrew: 10 KJV N.T.
4 For it is not possible that the blood of bulls and of goats should take away sins.
Hebrew: 9 KJV N.T.
13 For if the blood of bulls and of goats, and the ashes of an heifer sprinkling the unclean, sanctifieth to the purifying of the flesh:
14 How much more shall the blood of Christ, who through the eternal Spirit offered himself without spot to God, purge your conscience from dead works to serve the living God?
22 And almost all things are by the law purged with blood; and without shedding of blood is no remission
The above is truth from the Holy KJV N.T..However Robert Pate willfully ignore the above because it counter his Antichrist agenda.
All of the above were solely in the context of the Old flawed Jewish tradition of killing animals, including killing Jesus, as blood sacrifices for the forgiveness of sin. The above revelation says that this was 'dead works' as done by the dead' and it was foolishness because 'it is not possible that the blood of bulls and of goats (or other killing/blood sacrifice) should take away sins'.
The above say that killing animal, as blood sacrifice (as done by the Jews) does not purge anyone from sin . . . never did.
Also, the above says, sacrificing life/offering of blood, for the forgiveness of sin related only to 'dead works'. 'Dead works' are done only by 'the dead'.
The Jews tradition, including the above, were flawed. This is why that old system was replaced:
1. The first covenant (the Jewish law covenant) says that the blood of bulls and of goats can take away sins.
2. The second covenant, which came by Jesus Christ, confirmed the truth, which is:
"it is not possible that the blood of bulls and of goats should take away sins"
The first covenant was confirmed to be with faults (it contained lies) and so it was replaced by the second covenant which is anchored in grace and truth which came with Jesus Christ:
Hebrews: 8 KJV N.T.
7 For if that first covenant had been faultless, then should no place have been sought for the second.
John 1 King James Version (KJV)
17 For the law was given by Moses, but grace and truth came by Jesus Christ
The following say that Moses lied (he did not use great plainness of speech) when he delivered the ten commandments etc. to the Jews:
2 Corinthians: 3 KJV N.T.
12 Seeing then that we have such hope, we use great plainness of speech:
13 And not as Moses, which put a veil over his face, that the children of Israel could not stedfastly look to the end of that which is abolished:
Robert Pate is relying on old Jewish traditions which (according to the Holy KJV N.T. says) is anchored, fundamentally, on untruths which Moses gave to the Jews.
It takes a foolish man to misread or not get the above very clear revelation.
Robert Pate is seriously foolish. Or may be, he is a Jew simply pretending to be Christian.
WatchmanOnTheWall,
Just on face value, do you not agree that Robert Pate is seriously foolish/simplistic? Does it not show?
Is it not very clear that one of the serious flaws, in the Old Jewish system, is that the laws of the Jewish system say that killing animals including killing Jesus, can be a blood sacrifice for forgiveness of sin. Especially when they hold 'thou shall not kill' as one of their main commandments?
And Robert Peter has jumped on this wagon and is promoting that Jesus was killed as a blood sacrifice for forgiveness of sin.
Clearly that is an idea from Satan/'the dead'. That is not an idea from God. Jesus did not die on the cross as a blood sacrifice for anyone.
The revelation from the Holy KJV N.T. which relates to Jesus offering 'himself up' is as follow:
Hebrew: 9 KJV N.T.
13 For if the blood of bulls and of goats, and the ashes of an heifer sprinkling the unclean, sanctifieth to the purifying of the flesh:
14 How much more shall the blood of Christ, who through the eternal Spirit offered himself without spot to God, purge your conscience from dead works to serve the living God?
22 And almost all things are by the law purged with blood; and without shedding of blood is no remission.
The above revelations says that Jesus offered up himself so that those sad and spiritually dead people will purge their consciences from dead works, of killing animals as blood sacrifices for the forgiveness of their sin and instead turn to serving the living God.
They were serving a dead god. By killing animals as a blood sacrifice for forgiveness of their sins, they were serving a 'dead god'. Their laws of killing animals as blood sacrifice for the forgiveness of their sin was a 'dead god'. Their forgiveness of sin was anchored on killing/death.
Jesus did not follow their dead god. Jesus followed the living God. The above revelations, clearly define the purpose of Jesus' offering-up himself to die on the cross, as confirmed in the Holy KJV N.T. as quoted above.
The revelations say: Jesus offered up himself, on the cross, so that those sad and spiritually dead people will purge their consciences from dead works, of killing animals as blood sacrifices, for the forgiveness of their sin and instead turn to serving the living God.
Clearly Jesus' aim, of offering himself, was to have the Jews drop their O.T./Mosaic/ten commandments/killing animals as blood sacrifice for the forgiveness of sin tradition and embrace the N.T./transgress the ten commandments so as to serve spirit and Spirit/Christian/Jesus tradition.
The above defined Jesus' reason for offering himself on the cross.
However if the foolish Jews believed that killing Jesus was a final blood sacrifice for their sins, up to that point. Then that deluded idea would be fine for the Jews, if thereafter they drop the O.T./Mosaic/ten commandments/killing animals as blood sacrifice for the forgiveness of sin tradition and embrace the N.T./transgress the ten commandments so as to serve spirit and Spirit/Christian/Jesus tradition.
Why does Robert Pate present himself as one who knows when he is clearly foolish or even worse?
He is deliberately corrupting the Holy KJV N.T., the mission of Jesus and Christianity. He is denying and persecuting Jesus to serve his seemingly Antichrist Jewish agenda.
Is it not clear that the tradition of killing animals or even Jesus, as a blood sacrifice is a part of the Jewish tradition of 2000 odd years ago. And this was dead works as done by 'the dead'.
Any thing that relates to killing animal or Jesus as a blood sacrifice for sin, can be related only to the Jews of 2000 odd years ago and to no one else.
Is Robert Pate a Jew and he realizes that the Jews are doomed? So he trying to lump everyone in with the wicked (deluded) Jews of 2000 odd years ago, who denied, persecuted, tortured and killed Jesus, their messiah and also went onto persecute Christians:
1 Thessalonians: 2 KJV N.T.
14 For ye, brethren, became followers of the churches of God which in Judaea are in Christ Jesus: for ye also have suffered like things of your own countrymen, even as they have of the Jews:
15 Who both killed the Lord Jesus, and their own prophets, and have persecuted us; and they please not God, and are contrary to all men:
John: 18 King James Version (KJV)
36 Jesus answered, My kingdom is not of this world: if my kingdom were of this world, then would my servants fight, that I should not be delivered to the Jews: but now is my kingdom not from hence.
Romans: 12 King James Version (KJV)
19 Dearly beloved, avenge not yourselves, but rather give place unto wrath: for it is written, Vengeance is mine; I will repay, saith the Lord.
Jesus kingdom is in the Spirit realm'. When people die physically, they are all totally vulnerable to the Spirit Jesus in the spirit realm. There some gets the favor of Jesus and are guided, by the Spirit Jesus, to God's kingdom of heaven in the spirit realm.
On the other hand, others and get the wrath of Jesus. These people are simply left to be buried with their dead physical body inside the earth, in hell, with Satan/Peter.
1. Jesus gets his vengeance there, from every one who denied, persecuted, tortured and killed him. This happens in the spirit realm, when these people die, physically.
2. Also, Jesus gets His vengeance from those who, while they lived, denied, undermine, persecuted his Christian tradition and His followers (i.e. Christians).
Jesus gets His vengeance, as an on going things, in the spirit realm, from everyone (who so deserve it) when they die, physically.
The Jews did not get away with denying, persecuting, torturing and killing the Lord Jesus. And no one who continue to deny and corrupt the Holy KJV N.T., Jesus' teachings and Christianity will get away from the wrath/sword of Jesus.
Also no one (not even if they are billions) who deny Christians their God given freedom, liberty, justification and instructions to transgress the ten commandments so as to serve spirit have been getting away or will ever get away from the wrath of Jesus, in the spirit ream when they die physically.
However quite contrary to the above, it suits the convenience of many people, including Jews, to say that Jesus is all forgiving and he does not and will not seek vengeance.
They conveniently and boldly deny, undermine, corrupt and misrepresent the teaching of the Holy KJV N.T., Jesus and Christianity to prop-up their own Antichrist/O.T./Mosaic/ten commandments/Jewish ideologies.
They (the above people) are so totally 'dead' to their spirit. They do not have the slightest hint of the fact that, when they die physical, they will go the spirit realm, which is where Jesus is Lord and where Jesus has His kingdom and power.
At any event, these people who deny the N.T./transgress the ten commandments to serve spirit and Spirit/Christian/Jesus tradition on earth, are 'the dead'. They are obviously 'the spiritually dead'.
Therefore these people will be totally unaware when they die, physically. Then they will simply be dragged with their dead physical body. They will be buried together with their dead physical bodies, inside the earth, in hell, with Satan/Peter. Jesus will then have his vengeance of 'letting the dead bury their dead inside the earth, in hell with Satan/Peter'.
Isn't Robert Pate conveniently and boldly deny, undermine, corrupt and misrepresent the teaching of the Holy KJV N.T., here, in full and bold sight?
The actual quote is:
Hebrews: 9 King James Version (KJV)
22 And almost all things are by the law purged with blood; and without shedding of blood is no remission.
Robert Pate is being dishonest. The revelation, which Robert Pate quoted, does not say what Robert Pate says which is, "Without the shedding of blood there is no remission of sins".
The above revelations simply described a Jewish tradition, that was based on the law (i.e. the old flawed Mosaic covenant and Mosaic ideas). This law is the killing of animals as blood sacrifice for the forgiveness of sin. This law is not even one of the ten commandments. Therefore it is not even one of laws which the Jews held to be supreme. It is simply an ordinary Jewish law . . . and no one will argue that it is a Jewish law.
However, Robert Pate is expanding the above to include killing Jesus as a blood sacrifice for the forgiveness of sin. This is opposed to and a transgression of the 'thou shall not kill' commandments. Clearly that idea is all foolishness. It is all contradictory. However no one will argue that it is a Jewish law.
The Jews of 2000 odd years ago, were violent and evil. They transgress their own laws, the ten commandments, to suit their convenience. Those with sin would routinely stone adulterers to death.
Here we have Robert Pate honoring a Jewish law that is not even one of the ten commandments. This is a secondary Jewish law which is the killing of animals as a blood sacrifice for the forgiveness of sin. In fact Robert Pate moved the original Jewish law further, to include killing Jesus as a blood sacrifice for the forgiveness of sin. And it does not seem to bother Robert Pate that this is a transgression of the 'thou shall not kill' commandment.
Isn't Robert Pate foolish to make-up, buy into and/or so forcefully parrot and promote, such serious contradiction and foolishness?
Seekers of truth must identify deceivers.
The following revelation from the Holy KJV N.T. (the New covenant) says that, that Jewish tradition (of killing animals as a blood sacrifice for the forgiveness of sin), is flawed.
It does not work. It is foolish. It is dead works. It is all delusion/illusions on the path of the Jews and their law. The Jews were simply fooling-up themselves with these killing of animals, as blood sacrifice for the forgiveness of sin:
Hebrew: 10 KJV N.T.
4 For it is not possible that the blood of bulls and of goats should take away sins.
Hebrew: 9 KJV N.T.
13 For if the blood of bulls and of goats, and the ashes of an heifer sprinkling the unclean, sanctifieth to the purifying of the flesh:
14 How much more shall the blood of Christ, who through the eternal Spirit offered himself without spot to God, purge your conscience from dead works to serve the living God?
22 And almost all things are by the law purged with blood; and without shedding of blood is no remission
The above is truth from the Holy KJV N.T..However Robert Pate willfully ignore the above because it counter his Antichrist agenda.
All of the above were solely in the context of the Old flawed Jewish tradition of killing animals, including killing Jesus, as blood sacrifices for the forgiveness of sin. The above revelation says that this was 'dead works' as done by the dead' and it was foolishness because 'it is not possible that the blood of bulls and of goats (or other killing/blood sacrifice) should take away sins'.
The above say that killing animal, as blood sacrifice (as done by the Jews) does not purge anyone from sin . . . never did.
Also, the above says, sacrificing life/offering of blood, for the forgiveness of sin related only to 'dead works'. 'Dead works' are done only by 'the dead'.
The Jews tradition, including the above, were flawed. This is why that old system was replaced:
1. The first covenant (the Jewish law covenant) says that the blood of bulls and of goats can take away sins.
2. The second covenant, which came by Jesus Christ, confirmed the truth, which is:
"it is not possible that the blood of bulls and of goats should take away sins"
The first covenant was confirmed to be with faults (it contained lies) and so it was replaced by the second covenant which is anchored in grace and truth which came with Jesus Christ:
Hebrews: 8 KJV N.T.
7 For if that first covenant had been faultless, then should no place have been sought for the second.
John 1 King James Version (KJV)
17 For the law was given by Moses, but grace and truth came by Jesus Christ
The following say that Moses lied (he did not use great plainness of speech) when he delivered the ten commandments etc. to the Jews:
2 Corinthians: 3 KJV N.T.
12 Seeing then that we have such hope, we use great plainness of speech:
13 And not as Moses, which put a veil over his face, that the children of Israel could not stedfastly look to the end of that which is abolished:
Robert Pate is relying on old Jewish traditions which (according to the Holy KJV N.T. says) is anchored, fundamentally, on untruths which Moses gave to the Jews.
It takes a foolish man to misread or not get the above very clear revelation.
Robert Pate is seriously foolish. Or may be, he is a Jew simply pretending to be Christian.
WatchmanOnTheWall,
Just on face value, do you not agree that Robert Pate is seriously foolish/simplistic? Does it not show?
Is it not very clear that one of the serious flaws, in the Old Jewish system, is that the laws of the Jewish system say that killing animals including killing Jesus, can be a blood sacrifice for forgiveness of sin. Especially when they hold 'thou shall not kill' as one of their main commandments?
And Robert Peter has jumped on this wagon and is promoting that Jesus was killed as a blood sacrifice for forgiveness of sin.
Clearly that is an idea from Satan/'the dead'. That is not an idea from God. Jesus did not die on the cross as a blood sacrifice for anyone.
The revelation from the Holy KJV N.T. which relates to Jesus offering 'himself up' is as follow:
Hebrew: 9 KJV N.T.
13 For if the blood of bulls and of goats, and the ashes of an heifer sprinkling the unclean, sanctifieth to the purifying of the flesh:
14 How much more shall the blood of Christ, who through the eternal Spirit offered himself without spot to God, purge your conscience from dead works to serve the living God?
22 And almost all things are by the law purged with blood; and without shedding of blood is no remission.
The above revelations says that Jesus offered up himself so that those sad and spiritually dead people will purge their consciences from dead works, of killing animals as blood sacrifices for the forgiveness of their sin and instead turn to serving the living God.
They were serving a dead god. By killing animals as a blood sacrifice for forgiveness of their sins, they were serving a 'dead god'. Their laws of killing animals as blood sacrifice for the forgiveness of their sin was a 'dead god'. Their forgiveness of sin was anchored on killing/death.
Jesus did not follow their dead god. Jesus followed the living God. The above revelations, clearly define the purpose of Jesus' offering-up himself to die on the cross, as confirmed in the Holy KJV N.T. as quoted above.
The revelations say: Jesus offered up himself, on the cross, so that those sad and spiritually dead people will purge their consciences from dead works, of killing animals as blood sacrifices, for the forgiveness of their sin and instead turn to serving the living God.
Clearly Jesus' aim, of offering himself, was to have the Jews drop their O.T./Mosaic/ten commandments/killing animals as blood sacrifice for the forgiveness of sin tradition and embrace the N.T./transgress the ten commandments so as to serve spirit and Spirit/Christian/Jesus tradition.
The above defined Jesus' reason for offering himself on the cross.
However if the foolish Jews believed that killing Jesus was a final blood sacrifice for their sins, up to that point. Then that deluded idea would be fine for the Jews, if thereafter they drop the O.T./Mosaic/ten commandments/killing animals as blood sacrifice for the forgiveness of sin tradition and embrace the N.T./transgress the ten commandments so as to serve spirit and Spirit/Christian/Jesus tradition.
Why does Robert Pate present himself as one who knows when he is clearly foolish or even worse?
He is deliberately corrupting the Holy KJV N.T., the mission of Jesus and Christianity. He is denying and persecuting Jesus to serve his seemingly Antichrist Jewish agenda.
Is it not clear that the tradition of killing animals or even Jesus, as a blood sacrifice is a part of the Jewish tradition of 2000 odd years ago. And this was dead works as done by 'the dead'.
Any thing that relates to killing animal or Jesus as a blood sacrifice for sin, can be related only to the Jews of 2000 odd years ago and to no one else.
Is Robert Pate a Jew and he realizes that the Jews are doomed? So he trying to lump everyone in with the wicked (deluded) Jews of 2000 odd years ago, who denied, persecuted, tortured and killed Jesus, their messiah and also went onto persecute Christians:
1 Thessalonians: 2 KJV N.T.
14 For ye, brethren, became followers of the churches of God which in Judaea are in Christ Jesus: for ye also have suffered like things of your own countrymen, even as they have of the Jews:
15 Who both killed the Lord Jesus, and their own prophets, and have persecuted us; and they please not God, and are contrary to all men:
John: 18 King James Version (KJV)
36 Jesus answered, My kingdom is not of this world: if my kingdom were of this world, then would my servants fight, that I should not be delivered to the Jews: but now is my kingdom not from hence.
Romans: 12 King James Version (KJV)
19 Dearly beloved, avenge not yourselves, but rather give place unto wrath: for it is written, Vengeance is mine; I will repay, saith the Lord.
Jesus kingdom is in the Spirit realm'. When people die physically, they are all totally vulnerable to the Spirit Jesus in the spirit realm. There some gets the favor of Jesus and are guided, by the Spirit Jesus, to God's kingdom of heaven in the spirit realm.
On the other hand, others and get the wrath of Jesus. These people are simply left to be buried with their dead physical body inside the earth, in hell, with Satan/Peter.
1. Jesus gets his vengeance there, from every one who denied, persecuted, tortured and killed him. This happens in the spirit realm, when these people die, physically.
2. Also, Jesus gets His vengeance from those who, while they lived, denied, undermine, persecuted his Christian tradition and His followers (i.e. Christians).
Jesus gets His vengeance, as an on going things, in the spirit realm, from everyone (who so deserve it) when they die, physically.
The Jews did not get away with denying, persecuting, torturing and killing the Lord Jesus. And no one who continue to deny and corrupt the Holy KJV N.T., Jesus' teachings and Christianity will get away from the wrath/sword of Jesus.
Also no one (not even if they are billions) who deny Christians their God given freedom, liberty, justification and instructions to transgress the ten commandments so as to serve spirit have been getting away or will ever get away from the wrath of Jesus, in the spirit ream when they die physically.
However quite contrary to the above, it suits the convenience of many people, including Jews, to say that Jesus is all forgiving and he does not and will not seek vengeance.
They conveniently and boldly deny, undermine, corrupt and misrepresent the teaching of the Holy KJV N.T., Jesus and Christianity to prop-up their own Antichrist/O.T./Mosaic/ten commandments/Jewish ideologies.
They (the above people) are so totally 'dead' to their spirit. They do not have the slightest hint of the fact that, when they die physical, they will go the spirit realm, which is where Jesus is Lord and where Jesus has His kingdom and power.
At any event, these people who deny the N.T./transgress the ten commandments to serve spirit and Spirit/Christian/Jesus tradition on earth, are 'the dead'. They are obviously 'the spiritually dead'.
Therefore these people will be totally unaware when they die, physically. Then they will simply be dragged with their dead physical body. They will be buried together with their dead physical bodies, inside the earth, in hell, with Satan/Peter. Jesus will then have his vengeance of 'letting the dead bury their dead inside the earth, in hell with Satan/Peter'.
Isn't Robert Pate conveniently and boldly deny, undermine, corrupt and misrepresent the teaching of the Holy KJV N.T., here, in full and bold sight?
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