Ukraine is a WWIII powder keg

ffreeloader

Well-known member
Here is how bad the anti-Russian/Putin propaganda is.

Germany is saying Putin has "weaponized" energy after Germany seized Russia's Gazprom infrastructure and all Putin did in response was a "massive" 3% reduction in gas supply. Who just weaponized energy? Germany did by seizing control of Russia's energy infrastructure inside Germany. That is an act of war.

Who responded with a rational response to massive provocation? Putin did. That's not the behavior of an insane man. If he was the guy the media portrays him to be he would have just launched nuclear missiles. He didn't. He showed remarkable restraint.

Once again the media and western governments are shown to be big time liars and provocateurs. It's the same things they have done during the entire run up to this war between Ukraine and Russia. They have been pushing Russia's buttons for decades via NATO trying to provoke a response.

 

ffreeloader

Well-known member
Maybe this is a way out for everybody. Maybe this is a chip we can negotiate with. Maybe we say, "Get the ... get out of Ukraine, and we'll deny Finland's NATO application." Finland's going to make it official real soon. So it will become any day now real. Tell Putin the Putatively Braindead that we'll tell Finland "No thank you", if he withdraws his military.

Maybe he bites.
I have to say I am shocked by you. You have demonstrated your understanding that the media wants us dead and lies to us 24/7 on everything. Yet you think the media is 100% reliable on Ukraine? How do you maintain this type of dissonance?

I can understand how the leftists and those who deny everything to do with the corona virus and the "vaccines" as well as Russia, Russia, Russia believe everything to do with the propaganda on Ukraine because they believe everything the mocking bird media says. They are incapable of holding a conflicting view of what the media says is going on in our world. But you're not like them as you're capable of distinguishing truth from lies. You've proven that over time. How can you possibly believe the same media that wants you dead is honest with you about anything? Isn't knowing the media wants you dead enough to break their hold over you?
 

ffreeloader

Well-known member
Just how is the Russia/Ukraine war going for the Ukrainians? Is the media lying to us about it?

 

Idolater

Ultra MAGA
So now I'm hearing that Sweden joins Finland in desiring to join NATO.

So now that's another chip that we can play.

We tell Putin the Excruciatingly Idiotic Smooth-Brain, we'll deny both Sweden's and Finland's applications. You get all your troops the ... you get them all out of Ukraine, according to the borders in January, and we'll perpetually deny them; unless and until you do something else belligerent, and then they automatically become members, no ifs, ands, or buts.

See if he bites.

He needs a way out of this without looking like a total fool. At least these terms might be acceptable and he could save his own troops and innocent Ukrainians.

But leave all the guns right where they are.
 

Arthur Brain

Well-known member
Here is how bad the anti-Russian/Putin propaganda is.

Germany is saying Putin has "weaponized" energy after Germany seized Russia's Gazprom infrastructure and all Putin did in response was a "massive" 3% reduction in gas supply. Who just weaponized energy? Germany did by seizing control of Russia's energy infrastructure inside Germany. That is an act of war.

Who responded with a rational response to massive provocation? Putin did. That's not the behavior of an insane man. If he was the guy the media portrays him to be he would have just launched nuclear missiles. He didn't. He showed remarkable restraint.

Once again the media and western governments are shown to be big time liars and provocateurs. It's the same things they have done during the entire run up to this war between Ukraine and Russia. They have been pushing Russia's buttons for decades via NATO trying to provoke a response.

Did he show "remarkable restraint" when he launched his "special military operation" in the Ukraine? That was reasonable was it? You love to criticize any none far right Western news so you must be a fan of Russia's state controlled media, right?
 

ffreeloader

Well-known member
Here is a video I ran across today. It's a youtube channel made by an English speaking Russian. He does a lot of bushcraft/survivalist videos and he's very good at demonstrating his skills. He explains exactly how to do what and why he does it. He's an excellent teacher.

However today's show is all about how the Russian people are faring under the sanctions as he is getting so many questions about it from his subscribers. He takes his camera through many local establishments and shows what's going on. I think you might just be surprised at what you see.

 
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