uh oh Australia

ffreeloader

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well its a reversal of last time
this time they are trying to vilify the ones without the badge or passport
I see this time as a copy of last time. Those being vilified are being denied badges and passports and the thoughtless and weak (those too afraid to stand up for those being vilified) are cheering on the vilification.

I see no difference at all. The more things change, the more they stay the same.
 

ok doser

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it's not about bikers its about dictatorship

they could just enforce laws they already have




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Actually, I'm not opposed to this. I wish we had the will to do similar things here in the states. I would take it further. Gang membership would be punished with summary execution.
Are you familiar with how they've handled illegal drug trafficking in the Philippines?
Are you familiar with the harshness and severity of similar laws in Singapore, for example?
 

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Actually, I'm not opposed to this. I wish we had the will to do similar things here in the states. I would take it further. Gang membership would be punished with summary execution.
Are you familiar with how they've handled illegal drug trafficking in the Philippines?
Are you familiar with the harshness and severity of similar laws in Singapore, for example?

I don't think there's anything inherently wrong with biker gangs, so long as they aren't participating in criminal activities.

I do agree that punishments in general need to be harsher though.
 

way 2 go

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Actually, I'm not opposed to this. I wish we had the will to do similar things here in the states. I would take it further. Gang membership would be punished with summary execution.
we have laws already tho,we and oz , that we don't enforce or punish properly when we enforce those laws

do we meet out the death penalty for drug dealers that pedal death ? no

👇 this is just stupid and can target any "group" like orange vested people for example
Bikers can't display tattoos, gather in public, wear their insignias in Australia. Penalty? 1-5 years in prison.


Are you familiar with how they've handled illegal drug trafficking in the Philippines?
no , I would guess death penalty ?
Are you familiar with the harshness and severity of similar laws in Singapore, for example?
no , again I would guess death penalty ?
 

ok doser

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we have laws already tho,we and oz , that we don't enforce or punish properly when we enforce those laws

do we meet out the death penalty for drug dealers that pedal death ? no

👇 this is just stupid and can target any "group" like orange vested people for example
Bikers can't display tattoos, gather in public, wear their insignias in Australia. Penalty? 1-5 years in prison.
the Australian law is targeted against a specific group of biker gangs that have been perniciously involved in criminal activity.

no , I would guess death penalty ?
The Philippines has been dealing with their illegal drug problem with extrajudicial executions.
no , again I would guess death penalty ?
Mandatory death penalty for conviction of the following offenses:





Under Schedule 2 of the Misuse of Drugs Act,[53][54] any person importing or exporting more than the following quantities of drugs receives a mandatory death sentence:

  • 1200 grams of opium and containing more than 30 grams of morphine (§5 and §7, (2)(b));
  • 30 grams of morphine (§5 and §7, (3)(b));
  • 15 grams of diamorphine (heroin) (diamo (§5 and §7, (4)(b));
  • 30 grams of cocaine (§5 and §7, (5)(b));
  • 500 grams of cannabis (§5 and §7, (6)(b));
  • 1000 grams of cannabis mixture (§5 and §7, (7)(b));
  • 200 grams of cannabis resin (§5 and §7, (8)(b));
  • 250 grams of methamphetamine (§5 and §7, (9)(b)).
Death sentences are also mandatory for any person caught manufacturing:

  • Morphine, or any salt of morphine, ester of morphine or salt of ester of morphine (§6, (2));
  • Diamorphine (heroin) or any salt of diamorphine (§6, (3));
  • Cocaine or any salt of cocaine (§6, (4));
  • Methamphetamine (§6, (5)).
Under the Act:

any person who is proved to have had in his possession or custody or under his control —
  1. anything containing a controlled drug;
  2. the keys of anything containing a controlled drug;
  3. the keys of any place or premises or any part thereof in which a controlled drug is found; or
  4. a document of title relating to a controlled drug or any other document intended for the delivery of a controlled drug,
shall, until the contrary is proved, be presumed to have had that drug in his possession.
Furthermore, any person who has a controlled drug in his possession shall be presumed to have known the nature of that drug.[citation needed]

The majority of executions in Singapore are for drug offences. Since 2010, 23 prisoners have been executed for drug offences, while only five have been executed for other offences, such as murder. Death penalty supporters, such as blogger Benjamin Chang, claim that Singapore has one of the lowest prevalence of drug abuse worldwide. Chang claims, for instance, that over two decades, the number of drug abusers arrested each year has declined by two-thirds, from over 6,000 in the early 1990s to about 2,000 in 2011.[55] The validity of these figures is disputed by other Singaporeans, such as drugs counsellor Tony Tan.[56] The United Nations Office on Drugs and Crime notes that Singapore remains a transit destination for drug traffickers in Asia, drug seizures continue to increase, and heroin drug use within Singapore is continuing to rise.[57]
 
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ok doser

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then you don't need this new law, they need to go after them for their criminal activity
The problem with criminals is that they tend to try and hide their criminal activity.

I just saw this for the first time not a half hour ago and I'll share it with you. Ryan George isn't for everybody but I enjoy a lot of his humor:

 

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The problem with criminals is that they tend to try and hide their criminal activity.

I just saw this for the first time not a half hour ago and I'll share it with you. Ryan George isn't for everybody but I enjoy a lot of his humor:


What needs to happen (besides completely discarding the current "just-a-system" and installing a new one, a la God's Criminal Justice System from Bob enyart) is implementing punishments for crimes that make it so that criminals cease wanting to commit crime, from not wanting to suffer the consequences should they be caught.

A strong deterrent to crime is far more effective than an iron fisted approach at preventing crime.
 

way 2 go

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The problem with criminals is that they tend to try and hide their criminal activity.

I just saw this for the first time not a half hour ago and I'll share it with you. Ryan George isn't for everybody but I enjoy a lot of his humor:

I like his screen rant movie reviews
 

way 2 go

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What needs to happen (besides completely discarding the current "just-a-system" and installing a new one, a la God's Criminal Justice System from Bob enyart) is implementing punishments for crimes that make it so that criminals cease wanting to commit crime, from not wanting to suffer the consequences should they be caught.

A strong deterrent to crime is far more effective than an iron fisted approach at preventing crime.
capital punishment , corporal punishment and restitution
 

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annabenedetti

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Now that we have heard of the Chief Minister of The Northern Territory why don't you post some opinions from the general citizenry. Perhaps some of the people at the protests against this guys policies. :rolleyes:

Apples and oranges. This is one government official to another.

But any opinions of the minister from the general citizenry of Australia can be easily met with opinions of Ted Cruz from the general citizenry of the U.S.
 
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