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I do not just claim to be an atheist. I am an atheist.
sorry didn't mean to malign you in any way
Well, you queried where my tolerance was as if I was expected to have it towards you. I responded and now you've answered your own initial question. My "so called morals" trump yours though on the basis that they are concerned about the welfare of other humans (the only working relevant definition of morality) and that yours does not.
Concerning morality, there isn't. Morality is a human construct devised by us for us.
I thought you were being sarcastic, even though I agreed with what you were saying.
This would not be your first incorrect assumption. I'm a bloke (slang for male in the UK).
You answered your own question again. When you presume to know about the 'homosexual lifestyle' and tell homosexuals that they are hell-bound, vile, perverts etc then you take upon the properties of arrogant and ignorant to them and immediately invite contempt. Just like how if a Muslim approached you and warned you of eternal hellfire and demanded you revoke your "idols" you would view him with contempt.
I do know quite a bit about the homosexual lifestyle. I expect contempt when I inform them of their consequences. Oddly enough though most seem to be OK with what I tell them, must be the way I do it. As to a muslim approaching me, he would be wrong in warning me of eternal hellfire and demanding that I revoke my idols, I don't worship idols anyway. I would be remiss if I didn't inform him the error of his ways. Then he'd probably try to kill me since I'm an infadel. He'd probably lose and THEN he'd know I was right after all. If he managed to kill me, well so be it. I'll wait for him to still realize that I'm right.
That's not what I was referring to. Never-mind. I suspect you weren't saying what I thought you were saying anyway.
There are no moral absolutes. Though if your belief on God is true, all of the above there would be true.
And I'm sure you are absolutely postive about that. Yeah if, huh. Better hope I'm not.
Uh, sure. This is more true than I think you know. Why indeed would anyone want to obey a being that would condemn all non-believers to eternal torment?
Because He offers eternal life with no pain, suffering, hunger, sadness, disease, and more I'm sure. The alternative is the opposite and again more I'm sure. You have nothing, this life is it and if you happen to be diseased or life has just been really crappy for you, and you have given up hope that things will get any better, well then why would you still be here. If you've been lucky enough to have lived a great life why wouldn't you want it to last. For you this is as good as it gets. Hope it's been a grand life for you so far. Because it's gonna be crappy for you for a very very long time
You're right, I don't. I've never asked or even implied anyone obey or worship me. I get though that you're apparently so vested in your own self-interest that you'll endorse apparently anything that God says no matter how evil it is towards others. I already know that you're in a slave-master setup.
This isn't true. If I was to accept the offer of salvation then I would be required by definition to feign belief in Christianity. It would demand that I pretend to believe something that I both both evil and untrue for my own self-interest. In the grand scheme of things, it is difficult to actually imagine something so self-serving and contemptible.
If you were to truly accept the offer of salvation you wouldn't be feigning belief.You would truly become a believer. Once there you'd find out that it's not evil or untrue and was designed for your self intrest. He was crucified and died for YOU. Self serving you betchya.
For the last statement, I have no dispute. I am sure you have a lot more arrogance and ignorance on many avenues. Don't stop on account of me.
Trust me I won't. I have you and many others here to remind me of my arrogance and ignorance. I must be stupid or something huh, every one says I am, must be true.
You understand that there's a significant difference between pedophilia and homosexuality, right? It is entirely acceptable to disown your child for actions such as rape, murder, pedophilia and violent crime especially if they show no remorse, regret or shame. It is not the same to disown your child for having a consensual relationship with another person in the same gender.
Both are disgusting and wicked. You disagree I know, you are wrong. I am done trying to convince you that it is. You know you can't convince me otherwise.
Both fruits.
Actually, I wouldn't be. A good job though that I probably would disown my child for something like the above.
Whether or not it is "close enough for you" doesn't matter. It was a stupid analogy that was divorced from what I said. It is contemptible to disown your own child based on them being in a homosexual relationship.
Matters to God. Contemptable according to who you? You'd have to have a moral compass of some sort to call me contemptable. Where did you get it. Society, tradition, conscience, culture reason. Where did all that come from, who was the first to decide what is right and what is wrong. Oh yeah there is no right or wrong in your world, its all relative. And you call me arrogant and ignorant. Tea pot calling the kettle black?
And now according to you he promises to or affiliates with the being that will torture people forever for not permanently viewing him in constant adulation. Talk about a fall from grace.
Don't you admire your parents for the wonderful things they've done for you. Brought you to life and cherished you enough to love you. God has given us a gift that only he could provide, I for one am thankful for that and gladly worship Him.
I can't have much sympathy there, I'm afraid.
Yeah, you mean sexually abnormal and/or grotesque. Take away the word 'sexual' from it and it simply becomes abnormal and therefore can become anything that is taboo or non-mainstream, such as listening to specific music.
Those that say listening to certain kinds of music condems one to hell are morons. If you become spirit filled that kind of music will no longer appeal to you anyway. God knows whats taboo, abnormal, grotesque, therefore I know.
To put simply: Making the argument that something is wrong because it is 'perverse' doesn't work unless you wish to impose mass conformity on all people at all times.
Now you're going to need to citate what the Bible says on homosexuality.
Why would I do that, you'll just rebuke it anyway. I can provide all the proof there is right before your very eyes and you will still deny all of it. And you think you can provide me with all the proof there is to cancel mine. Stalemate.
I'll take that. It is more a concession than you admit. You make claims like homosexuality leads only to "destruction" and "death" and admit that according to all human knowledge ever that it is baseless. I'll take that, absolutely.
Yeah, pretty much. More accurately though: We know more about homosexuality than the superstitious and ignorant authors of the Bible.
LOL
So what was your point? You've very good at inadvertently summarising my position. Most parents worth their salt won't care about their child's sexuality.
Yeah right, youre a fool
You're right, it is a long shot. At the moment you seem to also think that I am a woman as well so at the moment you have me down for a lesbian. I am for your information a heterosexual male.
Well we'll never no for sure. But I'll take your word for it.
For someone who claims to know so much about other people's thought processes you seem to frequently miss in your observations.
Yeah that happens sometimes. Frequently? So how many more times before I get the label of always.
This is even more arrogant and disgusting. How sir, would you even pretend to know what my parents think on this matter? Do you know them? You are literally claiming more insight into the thought process of my own parents than me and you wonder why I call you arrogant?!
Offended? Yeah Jesus was accused of doing the same thing, no wonder he was crucified.
Actually, given that I am not homosexual I haven't accused them of anything like that.
I also want to take note here about your hypocrisy. You think it entirely appropriate to make sweeping comments about all homosexuals inadvertently labeling them all or mostly pedophiles with your silly analogy earlier or labelling them as vile, perverts etc and yet it saddens you when they my reciprocate and call people who make those statements as bigoted and intolerant?
If what I say makes me bigot and a hypocrite by your definition or even my fellow believers definition then so be it. I'm neither, but then again any proof I might provide to prove my innocence will be rebuked.
Do you have any self-awareness whatsoever?
Of course all of this is fantasy because I'm straight.
Probably.
That you disagree with them doesn't mean they describe themselves as any less Christian.
You're an idiot. I am disgusted.
Some day when I graduate 4th grade and then get my GED you'll really get it coming, you ain't seen nuttin' yet.
Pure wit, clearly.
