Tides Caused by the Moon?

[Daniel1611]

The tides, as explained by Newton and accepted by majority opinion, are caused by the gravity of the moon. This thread isn't meant to explain Newton's position. It is assumed this position is known by the reader. The point is to raise questions concerning this theory.

1. If the earth's gravity is stronger than that of the moon, how does the moon's gravity over power that of the earth regarding the tides of the ocean?

2. Why is it not thought that the sun's gravity causes the tides?

3. Why aren't other objects affected by the moon's gravity?

4. If the moon's gravity is uniform, why are the tides not uniform?

5. Why aren't ALL bodies of water affected in this way, such as lakes, ponds and puddles?

How can the moon's gravity function in this manner?

 

[alwight]

Nobody who can type words can really be this dumb. :doh:

 

[Eeset]

The moon's gravity as well as that of the Sun, Venus, Jupiter, mars and all other concentrations of mass affect mountains as well as the seas. Its just that water moves a lot easier than rocks.

 

[Daniel1611]

The moon's gravity as well as that of the Sun, Venus, Jupiter, mars and all other concentrations of mass affect mountains as well as the seas. Its just that water moves a lot easier than rocks.

But how does the weaker gravity of the moon over power the stronger gravity of earth? And why are there no observable affects on other bodies of water like ponds? And how do we measure these alleged affects on mountains to know that there are affects?

 

[Daniel1611]

Nobody who can type words can really be this dumb. :doh:

Waiting to find out why my pond doesn't have a tide. Explain.

 

[CabinetMaker]

The tides, as explained by Newton and accepted by majority opinion, are caused by the gravity of the moon. This thread isn't meant to explain Newton's position. It is assumed this position is known by the reader. The point is to raise questions concerning this theory.

1. If the earth's gravity is stronger than that of the moon, how does the moon's gravity over power that of the earth regarding the tides of the ocean?

The ocean is s fluid held together by the polar bonding of water molecules. It is ready for it move when subjected to forces such as gravity.

2. Why is it not thought that the sun's gravity causes the tides?

It does. Not all tides are equal, some tides are higher than others depending on where the sun and moon are.

3. Why aren't other objects affected by the moon's gravity?

They are. Sometimes the effect is to small to be seen.

4. If the moon's gravity is uniform, why are the tides not uniform?

They aren't. See above.

5. Why aren't ALL bodies of water affected in this way, such as lakes, ponds and puddles?

They are. The Great Lakes experience tides.

How can the moon's gravity function in this manner?

Because the Earth rotates. The moons gravity is constant but add the Earth rotates and the moon orbits the Earth, the moons position relative to the surface of the Earth changes. When it is out over the ocean it pulls on the water creating a low tide. When is over land, the water flows back creating a high tide.

 

[Daniel1611]

Why isn't there a tide in my ponds?

 

[fool]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tide

 

[Quetzal]

It is clearly another made up concept driven home by the liberal media. Please see also: climate change and gravity. /sarcasm

 

[User Name]

1. If the earth's gravity is stronger than that of the moon, how does the moon's gravity over power that of the earth regarding the tides of the ocean?

The earth's gravity DOES overpower the moon's gravity. It's why the oceans don't go floating off into space!

2. Why is it not thought that the sun's gravity causes the tides?

"The moon is a major influence on the Earth’s tides, but the sun also generates considerable tidal forces. Solar tides are about half as large as lunar tides and are expressed as a variation of lunar tidal patterns, not as a separate set of tides..." Read on: http://oceanservice.noaa.gov/education/kits/tides/tides06_variations.html

3. Why aren't other objects affected by the moon's gravity?

Other objects ARE affected by the moon's gravity.

4. If the moon's gravity is uniform, why are the tides not uniform?

Answered here: https://www.reddit.com/r/askscience/comments/2v6z68/why_are_tides_not_globally_uniform/

5. Why aren't ALL bodies of water affected in this way, such as lakes, ponds and puddles?

They aren't massive enough.

 

[Jonahdog]

Nobody who can type words can really be this dumb. :doh:

Obviously, you are incorrect.

 

[Daniel1611]

Waiting to find out why my pond doesn't have a tide. Explain.

 

[User Name]

Waiting to find out why my pond doesn't have a tide. Explain.

http://www.theguardian.com/notesandqueries/query/0,,-199833,00.html

 

[Mocking You]

Waiting to find out why my pond doesn't have a tide. Explain.

Waiting to find out why my hair doesn't rise and fall with the moon's gravity. Explain.

 

[Desert Reign]

Why is it that when I stand next to D11's head I can hear the ocean?

 

[Desert Reign]

By the way, it is not these silly questions that I object to:

1. If the earth's gravity is stronger than that of the moon, how does the moon's gravity over power that of the earth regarding the tides of the ocean?

2. Why is it not thought that the sun's gravity causes the tides?

3. Why aren't other objects affected by the moon's gravity?

4. If the moon's gravity is uniform, why are the tides not uniform?

5. Why aren't ALL bodies of water affected in this way, such as lakes, ponds and puddles?

After all, anyone can be lacking knowledge, even as basic as this.

But what embarrasses me so badly is this:

The tides, as explained by Newton and accepted by majority opinion, are caused by the gravity of the moon. This thread isn't meant to explain Newton's position. It is assumed this position is known by the reader. The point is to raise questions concerning this theory.

D11: You can indeed assume that the vast majority do understand how tides work. But obviously, despite your apparent condescending attitude, we cannot assume that you yourself understand it.

 

[HisServant]

And this is coming from a KJV onlyist.

Dumb as a box of rocks.

Seriously, you win the prize for the dumbest person on the internet... hands down.

As far as why your pond doesn't have tides... it has to do with mass. It also has to do with proximity to the moon.

it's how gravity works... the larger the mass the more gravity, the smaller the mass the less its affected.

It's why the tides are barely perceptible around the equator and appear to be greater the further you get away from them.

 

[glassjester]

Waiting to find out why my pond doesn't have a tide. Explain.

Just because you don't understand how something works, doesn't mean it can't work that way.


I'm not trying to be rude, but did you try reading a book about how tides work?

 

[glassjester]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ohDG7RqQ9I

It's a start.

 

[Stripe]

TEST TIME! (on gravity. )

Imagine an experiment in two parts.

Part 1: Drop a spherical, 10kg object from 1km altitude above a perfectly spherical 10²⁴kg planet. Record time from release to impact.

Part 2: Repeat experiment with all the same parameters except for the mass that is to be dropped, which is replaced with a 10¹⁵kg object of equal volume.

Both parts are performed in a vacuum.

Question. How would the times for each part compare?
A: Part 2 would give a shorter time.
B: Part 1 would give a shorter time.
C: Both times would be the same.