This is what emboldened white supremacists look like

[Town Heretic]

you're right!

town is an authentic self-impressed blowhard :thumb:

You spend too much time on too little hope.

Me, I'm still holding some out for just about everyone, including you.

 

[ok doser]

i'll bet you're so impressed with that little bit of nonsense that you'll immortalize it in your shrine to yourself :chuckle:

 

[Town Heretic]

i'll bet you're so impressed with that little bit of nonsense

I'd say holding out hope for someone I don't think much of is a better use of time than this post of yours, but everyone has their standard.

that you'll immortalize it in your shrine to yourself :chuckle:

That's not it either...but it's peculiar the way you hang out there too.

Whatever is wrong with you won't be cured by this or by that. You need a healthy focus.

 

[rocketman]

I voted in 2016 to repeal the death penalty in California, so there's your answer. (The measure lost, 46% - 53%.)

California kept the death penalty, problem is they don't use it often enough...

 

[rocketman]

If socialism truly was about unchained human potential leading everyone to utopia, Lenin, Stalin, Mao and Pol Pot would not have amassed the indisputably largest ideologically-based mountain of bones in all of human history.

:BRAVO:

 

[Town Heretic]

:BRAVO:

Isn't it like suggesting that if Christianity was truly about loving our neighbor and following the example of Christ in gratitude it wouldn't have nearly destroyed Europe? I'm not a particular fan of socialism, but it seems to me you're confusing the gun with the man who holds it and his purpose.

 

[musterion]

The attempt to solve social problems by means of physical force is what a civilized society is established to prevent. The advocates of mass civil disobedience admit that their purpose is intimidation. A society that tolerates intimidation as a means of settling disputes—the physical intimidation of some men or groups by others—loses its moral right to exist as a social system, and its collapse does not take long to follow.

Politically, mass civil disobedience is appropriate only as a prelude to civil war—as the declaration of a total break with a country’s political institutions.

http://aynrandlexicon.com/lexicon/civil_disobedience.html


That much she was correct on.

 

[annabenedetti]

 

[annabenedetti]

 

[annabenedetti]

 

[Nick M]

 

[annabenedetti]

"Manning often receives media coverage for his condemnations of homosexuality, which include calling for homosexuals to be stoned to death."


Surprise, surprise.

 

[musterion]

Or a wheel.

 

[musterion]

Observe.

Attack the messenger so you don't have to address the message.

 

[annabenedetti]

Observe.

Attack the messenger so you don't have to address the message.

I was waiting for that. :chuckle:

Since Manning shares your coreligionist's views on stoning, what's the attack? It should be seen as a positive.

 

[musterion]

Manning makes a great observation about how there was no looting or rioting in Japan after the tsunami. Whereas in Haiti after the earthquake, or N.O. after Katrina...well...

 

[annabenedetti]

Manning makes a great observation about how there was no looting or rioting in Japan after the tsunami. Whereas in Haiti after the earthquake, or N.O. after Katrina...well...

I just can't get over how much you remind me of Jabin.

 

[ClimateSanity]

Manning makes a great observation about how there was no looting or rioting in Japan after the tsunami. Whereas in Haiti after the earthquake, or N.O. after Katrina...well...

It's the difference in culture.

 

[musterion]

However, let's keep in mind that Manning is an unsaved pentecostal baptizer.

http://www.atlah.org/2010/11/01/atlah-explained/

Below is the closest thing to a presentation of the Gospel of Salvation I can find on his entire huge website...

In Jesus, the only begotten Son of God, John 3:16, the promised Messiah, the Savior of the world, and soon coming King. That the death on the cross of Calvary and the resurrection of Jesus was and is indeed the only way of salvation, the perfect plan of redemption, and the full propitiation of the sins of mankind. "And it shall come to pass, that whosoever shall call on the name of the Lord shall be saved." Acts 2:21

We further believe in the Holy Spirit, known in the scriptures as the Spirit of Truth, John 16:13. That He is the completion of the Holy Trinity; enabling any man, woman or child to live a saved, empowered, and meaningful life in this kingdom; and to enjoy eternal life in the world to come. We additionally believe in the full use of the gifts of the Holy Spirit and the use of the five-fold ministry listed in I Corinthians 12:1-11 and Ephesians 4:11-16

. . .

Expanding the Kingdom of God on Earth
Our Mission is as follows:

As a fellowship of baptized believers in the Lord Jesus Christ, we purpose to love the Lord with all our heart, soul and mind, and to love our neighbor as our self. Matthew 22:37-40.

We further commit to carry out the great commission given by Jesus in Matthew 28:18-20. This body of believers has committed to devote all possible energy, and resources, to publicize the gospel of Jesus, and to make disciples of all nations.

http://www.atlah.org/our-mission-statement/

 

[ClimateSanity]

Do better and be honest in your work, "Christian".

Of course, I'm actually a lawyer. What are you, really?


That's an opinion. As was your opinion about putting rapists to death. The problem, of course, is that you encourage murder for any crime that carries the penalty, a witness being a death sentence waiting to happen.


As of 2015, reaching back to 1990, "The murder rate in non-death penalty states has remained consistently lower than the rate in states with the death penalty, and the gap has grown since 1990." (link)

What we do know is that men are sometimes convicted of crimes they did not, in fact, commit. So we can't see a statistical correlation between deterrence and the death penalty, but we can know with near certainty that it will involve putting the innocent to death on occasion.


Then you accuse Christ, who let a woman guilty of a thing you say should bring death off with an admonition.

You might want to rethink your position.

Murder is a crime of passion in many cases. The death penalty will have little effect on an emotional irrational person. Look at other crime statistics in those states. It's also possible that other factors are responsible for the lower murder rates in those states.