ClimateSanity
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You think that you and Anna are saved while doser is unsaved correct?
This is what emboldened white supremacists look like
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ClimateSanity
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He should have been hung....im serious.
ClimateSanity
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If God did ask you why he should let you into heaven, what would you tell him?
ClimateSanity
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Be serious. Why do you think you deserve the death penalty? I'm not talking about eternal judgement of God.
WizardofOz
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That could be. What other factors are you thinking of?
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musterion
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Yup, you called it alright.lain:
Way to miss the points, dishonest one.
WizardofOz
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:liberals:
I simply quoted you. What was 'dishonest' about that?
Do explain or quote me being dishonest.
musterion
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You are dishonest because you are smart enough to know what I meant.
1. I said that Nick's posting the video would garner idiot responses from leftists who would personally attack Manning instead of responding to the content of his message. I don't even need to look at Anna's response to know that's exactly what she did.
2. I agree with pretty much everything Manning described in that video. That's the point of my first post.
3. My agreement with what he said in that video does not mean I consider him to be saved. Based on the content of his website, with its complete lack of mention of the saving Gospel of grace, he is not saved. That's the point of my second post.
4. Those are two completely separate points.
5. You are not unintelligent and you've been around here long enough to know that's what I meant, but you posted petty snideness anyway by conflating two completely separate points. That is why you were being dishonest.
1. I said that Nick's posting the video would garner idiot responses from leftists who would personally attack Manning instead of responding to the content of his message. I don't even need to look at Anna's response to know that's exactly what she did.
2. I agree with pretty much everything Manning described in that video. That's the point of my first post.
3. My agreement with what he said in that video does not mean I consider him to be saved. Based on the content of his website, with its complete lack of mention of the saving Gospel of grace, he is not saved. That's the point of my second post.
4. Those are two completely separate points.
5. You are not unintelligent and you've been around here long enough to know that's what I meant, but you posted petty snideness anyway by conflating two completely separate points. That is why you were being dishonest.
WizardofOz
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musterion
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Or you don't take them seriously enough.
ok doser
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Christ is in me, but to God-haters like town and anna, that's just noise
ok doser
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me too :thumb:
Stop jumping up and down. Same thing.
The wages of sin is death. Absent grace we're all just fighting over a grave.
Why should I care about how you qualify a thing to get another answer?
Sure. Same in Missouri, Texas, or New Hampshire. And?
Then the DP isn't a deterrent in those cases which means that in those cases it can't be a meaningful consideration. Doesn't help you if you're advocating for it. Crimes of passion tend to be the sort that can be pleaded down to 2nd degree murder or voluntary manslaughter.
Haven't seen a study to suggest it using empirical data. Looking at close neighbors I'm not seeing any statistical advantage to the DP.
Virginia, in 2015, had 4.6 homicides per 100k people. Virginia has the DP.
W. Virg., in 2015, had 3.8 homicides per 100k people. West Virginia banned the DP in 1965.
West Virginia is poorer, with the median income more than 20k below its adjoined big brother, and the population has about half the college graduates as a percentage of the population. West Virginia has right at 18% of its population living below the poverty line. Virginia has 11%.
Illinois, in 2015 had 5.8 homicides per 100k people. Illinois banned the DP.
Indiana, in 2015, had 5.6 homicides per 100k people. Indiana has the DP.
Illinois has a significantly larger population of college educated people and 11k more median income. They're about the same in terms of poverty and populace, with Illinois at 14.1 and Indiana at 15.4%
And, again, as of 2015, reaching back to 1990, "The murder rate in non-death penalty states has remained consistently lower than the rate in states with the death penalty, and the gap has grown since 1990." (link)
Sources:
Mundi index for population and income information.
Disaster Center for by year statistical data on homicides.
musterion
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Curious what answer you get to this question.
No, you're confusing me with Sod/doser, who routinely declares the spiritual fate and family of people he dislikes.
The quotes didn't lead you to your conclusion. I suspect your bias filter did. "You should close the distance" between your example and your action is a criticism, not a condemnation or attempt argue over the fate of his soul. That's above my pay grade.
But most of what Sod says about people and how he uses the Bible and his purported faith doesn't evidence gratitude or grace. My hope for him is that he simply has a selfish and immature faith that can and will alter him more over time. But if his faith and reliance are genuine, he may have a lot of apologizing to do for how he met it, but his salvation is secure. Between him and God. I can only speak to the quality of his witness, which at this point seems largely an angry and frustrated noise. A bit like the fellow forgiven much who rushes out to collect debts.
And that's enough off topic and about him.
To ask you, since you appear to feel qualified as a judge of the answer.
It's not a serious question to ask a Christian and if you don't credit my faith it's worse. What would the thief on the cross say? What would anyone called by God and saved by grace answer?
ok doser
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retards like you and anna think I should "evidence" my gratitude towards Christ by being as accepting of perversion as you two retards are
which is pretty darned retarded
See what I mean, Climate?retards like you and anna think I should "evidence" my gratitude towards Christ by being as accepting of perversion as you two retards are
which is pretty darned retarded
ok doser
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i can answer this one, directly and clearly and without trying to be "clever" or "witty" or obfuscative or avoidant
i would tell Him i am undeserving of heaven, that i am as filthy rags
So is it your intention to make a case for socialism counselor? Name one socialist nation that has not ended badly, or is currently a human rights nightmare for it's citizens? Socialism is a failed form of governance, and there is plenty of history to back that up. Socialism is nothing more than a utopian idea that is destined to fail because of human nature alone i.e...greed, power, violence amongst other human characteristics which are always overlooked, or did you think the human race is somehow evolved beyond it's sinful nature, and is now somehow inherently good?