CherubRam
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The Elect die once and live twice.
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The Elect die once and live twice.
Aimiel
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The 'Second Death' isn't life...
LIFE = "the quality that distinguishes a vital and functional plant or animal from a dead body b : a state of living characterized by capacity for metabolism, growth, reaction to stimuli, and reproduction." Merriam-Webster Dictionary
The suffering of those in the Lake of Fire cannot be defined as life, as we know it. They are alone, in the dark, suffering, without growth or reproduction and completely isolated from everyone and everything else that exists. Men are appointed ONCE to die. They are awakened from death to be judged as to where they will spend eternity, just as Scripture teaches. A second actual death would be a violation of God's Word.
LIFE = "the quality that distinguishes a vital and functional plant or animal from a dead body b : a state of living characterized by capacity for metabolism, growth, reaction to stimuli, and reproduction." Merriam-Webster Dictionary
The suffering of those in the Lake of Fire cannot be defined as life, as we know it. They are alone, in the dark, suffering, without growth or reproduction and completely isolated from everyone and everything else that exists. Men are appointed ONCE to die. They are awakened from death to be judged as to where they will spend eternity, just as Scripture teaches. A second actual death would be a violation of God's Word.
Yes I have had that for some years now.
It reveals that the KJV is slanted toward the religion of the time.
LA
Rev 19:17 And I saw an angel standing in the sun; and he cried with a loud voice, saying to all the fowls that fly in the midst of heaven, Come and gather yourselves together unto the supper of the great God;
LA
CherubRam
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What I don't understand is, why the translators of our bibles do not do a better job of translating. They see what is there and they ignore it. Then to top all things off, we have Catholic corruptions in the canonization of scriptures. All of these secret societies have Christians divided one against the other.
Jude
4. Because you are unaware that certain men have sneaked in, who are of a ancient order to their condemnation, these ungodly men turn the grace of our God into immorality, and deny that the only God is Yahwah, or that our lord Yahshua is the Messiah.
19. Not having the Spirit; these are the people who divide you for their desire.
At that time Jude was speaking of Pagan and Jewish secret societies.
CherubRam
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Won't you please study. Scripture4All is a good study source, and it is free. http://www.scripture4all.org/
Aimiel
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I've also just explained to you how men can only be appointed ONCE to die and yet partake of a 'Second Death,' but I guess you want to believe that the verse that says men only die ONCE is NOT TRUE. That's okay... believe what you have grown accustomed to, rather than The Bible.
Only when believers behold the head that they come out of their individual belief systems.
What amazes me is that many groups who differ on many things, actually agree on the one thing and in preaching it the Lord saves people into their group, but afterward if they stray from the truth and try to push their own group doctrines onto the converts then the Lord calls them out.
(and it is by many ways that He does this, even making them to be thrown out)
Pro 11:24 There is that scattereth, and yet increaseth; and there is that withholdeth more than is meet, but it tendeth to poverty.
LA
It does not say men only die once, it says--
Heb 9:27 And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment:
Rev 20:14 And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.
Rev 20:15 And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.
LA
The Bible speaks of a second death, so I believe that there is a second death for those who reject God.
Yeah, but who wants to listen to someone who knows very little
about, very little?
Read your Bible--
Rev 2:11 He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches; He that overcometh shall not be hurt of the second death.
LA
Have you even read the entire Bible, word for word, cover to cover?
LA is 'incorrigible!'
I do not know, but I can tell you what every chapter means.
Have you?
You do not regard the gospels as referring to you because you are a gentile you say.
OK.
Joh 3:14 And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of man be lifted up:
Joh 3:15 That whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life.
Joh 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
Joh 3:17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved. Joh 3:18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.
Joh 3:19 And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil.
Joh 3:20 For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved.