popsthebuilder
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That has nothing to do with following the Way after being shown.
The Trinity
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The english word "one," to be sure.
But I'm not talking about the English word for "one." I'm talking about the three different Hebrew words for "one."
Please pay attention to the subject matter at hand.
popsthebuilder
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Do you really think it was not the Will of GOD to allow such?
Nope. That's just in your head.
Pops, you're sounding more and more like an Arminian...
No, God did not "allow" Abram to take Hagar just like he doesn't "allow" a man to rape a woman or "allow" a pedophile to molest a child, nor did he will for it to happen, and especially not by any "decree" as Calvinists teach.
No, Abraham simply did not wait upon God's timing like he should have.
popsthebuilder
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Of course none of you would out right admit that three separate persons or personalities or personas really equates to three separate people. Or that three persons equals 300% person, and no room for God unless we are calling God 400% being. Illogical is great because it stands out for what it is. The fact of the matter is that the word person is a form of equating GOD to a person. Adding two more persons only makes it more atrocious. GOD is Spirit; and we are specifically and repeatedly told not to liken GOD to any formed thing.
I am in no way refuting the Spirit of the man Jesus. Man is formed, created, begotten; even if first to be so. As such, that man is not coeternal with the One Creator GOD; though His Spirit that fills HIS vessel and Temple is wholly of GOD.
popsthebuilder
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Wow.... It means the two are one in spirit showing such through the deeds of their flesh in singular spiritual accord in love; for the sake of one another.
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Jesus has two natures, he is fully God and fully man.
popsthebuilder
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Sure, sure.....
Gt is saying you have to work to earn one's salvation. Paul refutes that completely. GT uses James 2:24 because it supports her argument, but only because it's ripped out of the context of James 1:1.
popsthebuilder
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I couldn't care how many words mean one; they still all lead to the same conclusion; 1....not 3.
Again, you miss the point both I and GD are making, and that is that there is more than one definition of the word "one" used in the Bible other than describing a singular entity.
popsthebuilder
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You're missing the point. Golly, you people are dense.
My point is not that there are multiple words that mean one. My point is that the word used to describe God is not "one of singularity," as you and GT keep insisting, but that the word used means "one of plurality."
popsthebuilder
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Yet the act happened; did it not? Surely if GOD did not allow it, then it wouldn't have happened.
That is in no way whatsoever saying that the sin of man(though forgiven) is ever the will of GOD.
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glorydaz
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Oh, those are my two options because that's all you are able to see. :chuckle:
No, you give several texts with multiple verses that are both broad and wide....as if you've actually made an argument. There are probably twenty arguments (more even) in that group....including scolding which is one of your favorite things.
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popsthebuilder
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I am well aware that St. Paul preaches effectual faith though man would have us think the dead sort was spoken of and expounded upon.
Funny thing, context; more often than not, it spans actual chapters, showing the numeric divisions and even divisions of the chapters to be additions and needlessly divisive and too distractng from the actual content of the subject matter.
popsthebuilder
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And my point is that what you say is polytheistic in its very root and source. Please check.
Not to mention an oxymoron.
By saying "allow," you (perhaps unintentionally) make it seem like God is ok with people going against His will. That is not the case at all. I suggest you stop using the word "allow" to refer to something that happened. Because I assure you, God did not "allow" it to happen, it simply happened.
Except that is exactly what it says, especially to any unbelievers reading this thread. Words and ideas have consequences, Pops. You need to be mindful of that.