The Trinity

[lifeisgood]

God is speaking of JESUS.

It is prophetic about Jesus.

Shame on you.

You are resorting to the tactics the Jews who reject Jesus say.

Do you want to argue against me about who is the one who is called 'son' and who is the one who carried sins of others?

CONTEXT. CONTEXT. CONTEXT.

 

[lifeisgood]

Take more time to consider them more carefully, with the measure you use it will be measured to you.

The offer of getting you a mirror is still available, so, you can start by admonishing the one looking back at you.

Only one with the sword will understand what I said and be able to debate.

Debate is NOT, "I, gt, say that that is what the verse says. Nothing else matters, because, I, gt, have decreed that it is so."

 

[glorydaz]

Take more time to consider them more carefully, with the measure you use it will be measured to you.

Only one with the sword will understand what I said and be able to debate.

Those with the Holy Spirit dwelling in them know when and how to wield that sword. You have proven you don't....that we do understand.

We understand that when you claim the Son is the Father and Spirit. We understand that when you claim the word CHRIST means God and Saviour. We understand that when you say we must repent of our sins and obey in order to be saved. We understand that when you twist and distort God's word. The written word did not become flesh and dwell among us, it's been kept down through the ages so that we may defend against the wiles of the devil and all those who preach the same kind of lies that you do.

You are fooling no one....well, Pops maybe, but that's about the extent of it.

So please get off that high horse. It's very unbecoming.

 

[glorydaz]

:rotfl:

If nothing else, we get some good laughs out of her, don't we? She's a gift that keeps on giving.

 

[glorydaz]

God is speaking of JESUS.

But you just said Jesus did all the talking in the OT....not God. :chuckle:

 

[patrick jane]

Those with the Holy Spirit dwelling in them know when and how to wield that sword. You have proven you don't....that we do understand.

We understand that when you claim the Son is the Father and Spirit. We understand that when you claim the word CHRIST means God and Saviour. We understand that when you say we must repent of our sins and obey in order to be saved. We understand that when you twist and distort God's word. The written word did not become flesh and dwell among us, it's been kept down through the ages so that we may defend against the wiles of the devil and all those who preach the same kind of lies that you do.

You are fooling no one....well, Pops maybe, but that's about the extent of it.

So please get off that high horse. It's very unbecoming.

It's hard to let go of incorrect interpretations and false doctrines. GT is faced with the fact that many things she believes are wrong. Pride keeps people from the truth, God's Truth.

 

[God's Truth]

But you just said Jesus did all the talking in the OT....not God. :chuckle:

Jesus is God and was the one speaking in the old testament. You said so too.

 

[God's Truth]

The offer of getting you a mirror is still available, so, you can start by admonishing the one looking back at you.



Debate is NOT, "I, gt, say that that is what the verse says. Nothing else matters, because, I, gt, have decreed that it is so."

CONTEXT. CONTEXT. CONTEXT.

Would you like for me to bring you a mirror so you can start by admonishing the one looking back at you first?

You continue to try to put me down instead of defending your beliefs with scripture.

 

[God's Truth]

Those with the Holy Spirit dwelling in them know when and how to wield that sword. You have proven you don't....that we do understand.

We understand that when you claim the Son is the Father and Spirit. We understand that when you claim the word CHRIST means God and Saviour. We understand that when you say we must repent of our sins and obey in order to be saved. We understand that when you twist and distort God's word. The written word did not become flesh and dwell among us, it's been kept down through the ages so that we may defend against the wiles of the devil and all those who preach the same kind of lies that you do.

You are fooling no one....well, Pops maybe, but that's about the extent of it.

So please get off that high horse. It's very unbecoming.

There is only one God and He is Spirit and the Father.

Jesus is that one and only God and Spirit.

God the Father came as a Man.

Jesus tells us how to get saved.

He also tells us how to please him and how to be saved when he comes again.

 

[glorydaz]

There is only one God and He is Spirit and the Father.

Oops, you forgot the Son (Word)

Jesus is that one and only God and Spirit.

First you forget Him and now you say this?

God the Father came as a Man.

Error. God the Word came as a man.

Jesus tells us how to get saved.

He also tells us how to please him and how to be saved when he comes again.

When did He preach that? To whom did He preach that?

 

[glorydaz]

You don't know enough, for Jesus is called the Rock in the desert with Moses:


1 Corinthians 10:4
and drank the same spiritual drink; for they drank from the spiritual rock that accompanied them, and that rock was Christ.

I guess you think every rock in the Bible is speaking of the same rock. You end up missing the entire point because you're so concerned with proving there is ONE GOD. No one denies there is ONE GOD. Other nations had their "rock" or god.

Deuteronomy 32:31 For their rock is not as our Rock, even our enemies themselves being judges.​

The Lord God of Israel was their fortress....their protector and guide...their ROCK.

Psalm 31:3 For thou art my rock and my fortress; therefore for thy name's sake lead me, and guide me.

1 Samuel 2:2
There is none holy as the Lord: for there is none beside thee: neither is there any rock like our God.​

The rock that gave water was referring to the rock of salvation....thus Jesus was that spiritual rock. The point being, the Jews did not stumble over the FORTRESS. The Lord God they worshipped was not the Rock of Offense. They stumbled over Jesus Christ being the Saviour...the One Saviour God....thus He WAS the Rock of Offense to the Jews.

When you read a verse from the Bible, you really should try to figure out why the verse is saying what it says. Are you claiming by your statement above that the Jews stumbled over their fortress God....their Rock?

I know that Jesus was God, but He was the Rock of Offense to the Jews. Which, btw, is why John the Baptist came preaching the baptism of repentance to the Jews. They needed to change their mind about their Rock.

 

[God's Truth]

Oops, you forgot the Son (Word)

I did not forget. The Word is God and is the Spirit and is the Father who is God.

First you forget Him and now you say this?

Error. God the Word came as a man.

Jesus tells us how to get saved.

He also tells us how to please him and how to be saved when he comes again.
When did He preach that? To whom did He preach that?

Are you kidding? Jesus tells us in the Bible how to please him and be saved.

When Jesus comes again it will be as a thief in the night. Do you know what that means?

 

[God's Truth]

I guess you think every rock in the Bible is speaking of the same rock. You end up missing the entire point because you're so concerned with proving there is ONE GOD. No one denies there is ONE GOD. Other nations had their "rock" or god.

Deuteronomy 32:31 For their rock is not as our Rock, even our enemies themselves being judges.​

The Lord God of Israel was their fortress....their protector and guide...their ROCK.

Psalm 31:3 For thou art my rock and my fortress; therefore for thy name's sake lead me, and guide me.

1 Samuel 2:2
There is none holy as the Lord: for there is none beside thee: neither is there any rock like our God.​

The rock that gave water was referring to the rock of salvation....thus Jesus was that spiritual rock. The point being, the Jews did not stumble over the FORTRESS. The Lord God they worshipped was not the Rock of Offense. They stumbled over Jesus Christ being the Saviour...the One Saviour God....thus He WAS the Rock of Offense to the Jews.

When you read a verse from the Bible, you really should try to figure out why the verse is saying what it says. Are you claiming by your statement above that the Jews stumbled over their fortress God....their Rock?

I know that Jesus was God, but He was the Rock of Offense to the Jews. Which, btw, is why John the Baptist came preaching the baptism of repentance to the Jews. They needed to change their mind about their Rock.

Jesus is the Christ and was there in the desert.

Paul said Christ was with them in the desert and they did not obey, and they are a warning to us who have a chance to obey Christ now.

Warnings From Israel’s History
10 For I do not want you to be ignorant of the fact, brothers and sisters, that our ancestors were all under the cloud and that they all passed through the sea.

Did you hear that? Paul calls the people with Moses in the desert OUR ANCESTORS.


2 They were all baptized into Moses in the cloud and in the sea. 3 They all ate the same spiritual food 4 and drank the same spiritual drink; for they drank from the spiritual rock that accompanied them, and that rock was Christ. 5 Nevertheless, God was not pleased with most of them; their bodies were scattered in the wilderness.

6 Now these things occurred as examples to keep us from setting our hearts on evil things as they did.

Did you read that? Paul says they were an example to us.


7 Do not be idolaters, as some of them were; as it is written: “The people sat down to eat and drink and got up to indulge in revelry.” 8 We should not commit sexual immorality, as some of them did—and in one day twenty-three thousand of them died. 9 We should not test Christ, as some of them did—and were killed by snakes. 10 And do not grumble, as some of them did—and were killed by the destroying angel.

11 These things happened to them as examples and were written down as warnings for us, on whom the culmination of the ages has come.

Paul says that those things happened to them AS EXAMPLES and were WRITTEN DOWN as WARNING for US.

 

[glorydaz]

Jesus is the Christ and was there in the desert.

Paul said Christ was with them in the desert and they did not obey, and they are a warning to us who have a chance to obey Christ now.

Warnings From Israel’s History
10 For I do not want you to be ignorant of the fact, brothers and sisters, that our ancestors were all under the cloud and that they all passed through the sea.

Did you hear that? Paul calls the people with Moses in the desert OUR ANCESTORS.


2 They were all baptized into Moses in the cloud and in the sea. 3 They all ate the same spiritual food 4 and drank the same spiritual drink; for they drank from the spiritual rock that accompanied them, and that rock was Christ. 5 Nevertheless, God was not pleased with most of them; their bodies were scattered in the wilderness.

6 Now these things occurred as examples to keep us from setting our hearts on evil things as they did.

Did you read that? Paul says they were an example to us.


7 Do not be idolaters, as some of them were; as it is written: “The people sat down to eat and drink and got up to indulge in revelry.” 8 We should not commit sexual immorality, as some of them did—and in one day twenty-three thousand of them died. 9 We should not test Christ, as some of them did—and were killed by snakes. 10 And do not grumble, as some of them did—and were killed by the destroying angel.

11 These things happened to them as examples and were written down as warnings for us, on whom the culmination of the ages has come.

Paul says that those things happened to them AS EXAMPLES and were WRITTEN DOWN as WARNING for US.

The False Teacher is getting desperate.
Did you read that?
She is getting more and more desperate by the hour.

 

[God's Truth]

The False Teacher is getting desperate.
Did you read that?
She is getting more and more desperate by the hour.

Speak according to the scriptures. I gave you many.

 

[glorydaz]

Speak according to the scriptures. I gave you many.

Don't speak at all.....I'm not the only one getting sick of your big mouth.

 

[God's Truth]

Don't speak at all.....I'm not the only one getting sick of your big mouth.

What I preach and teach is the truth.

It is easy to understand, even little children can understand.

God the Father lives in heaven and also comes as a Son named Jesus.

He is all powerful and lives all around us and can live in the saved.

We do what Jesus says to get in Him, and we do what He says to please Him.

It is not confusing.

It is the Truth.

 

[glorydaz]

What I preach and teach is the truth.

It is easy to understand, even little children can understand.

God the Father lives in heaven and also comes as a Son named Jesus.

He is all powerful and lives all around us and can live in the saved.

We do what Jesus says to get in Him, and we do what He says to please Him.

It is not confusing.

It is the Truth.

You can say you preach the truth all day long and into next week, but it doesn't make it so.

The truth stands on its own....it needs no constant defense.

 

[God's Truth]

You can say you preach the truth all day long and into next week, but it doesn't make it so.

The truth stands on its own....it needs no constant defense.

I give scriptures to prove my beliefs.

There is only one Spirit. The Father is Spirit, the Son is Spirit, and the Holy Spirit is Spirit.

They must be the same one and only divine Spirit.

 

[Right Divider]

Take more time to consider them more carefully, with the measure you use it will be measured to you.

Only one with the sword will understand what I said and be able to debate.

More GT treats and pride.

Accept God's grace. You're not going to get into His body by YOUR obedience to anything in MML&J

Nobody will receive God's grace by what they do to earn it.