The Trinity

[popsthebuilder]

Unresponsive. You don't get to deflect with me, pops.

The whole point of the crucifixion was to satisfy justice, otherwise, there was no need for Jesus to die at all or even to have become a man in the first place. If all God needed was a lump of human flesh to bleed and die, He could have done that without having to forsake His Son who was the Creator of all things and was with Him in the beginning and was Him and whom God begot and called Him Son.

But I'm not going to give you a complete dissertation of what nearly everyone who calls themselves Christian believes. Even if I did, it would not convince you. There are 16,000+ posts on this thread alone that are proof enough of that. You can try to bait others into such wastes of time if you think it'll prove anything but it won't.

Resting in Him,
Clete

Nothing but a wordy excuse. Do you know what excuses are like?

Do you know that you are to be eager to explain the reasons for and the breadth of your faith in our Savior?

Would you care for the scripture frenemy?

You aren't negatively affecting me in any way you see; I don't care what any whatsoever think of me, but GOD. you damage your own credibility alone.

 

[God's Truth]

Death is separation.
Physical death is separation of the body and spirit.

Right.

Christ's spiritual death was a separation of the Son from the Father.

Jesus was never ever Spiritually dead; and, he was never separated from the Father.

 

[popsthebuilder]

You're an idiot. Stop listening to the moron that stands behind the pulpit at your church.


This is utter stupidity.

Go ahead, call the man with a knife at your child's throat, "brother". FOOL!

Psalms 139:19-22
Oh, that You would slay the wicked, O God!
Depart from me, therefore, you bloodthirsty men.

For they speak against You wickedly;
Your enemies take Your name in vain.

Do I not hate them, O Lord, who hate You?
And do I not loathe those who rise up against You?

I hate them with perfect hatred;
I count them my enemies.​

You are a complete waste of my time! Why do I even bother to do this?!


Good! You disgust me! You're a filthy heretic who's teachings will land people in an eternal Hell. I'm not your friend, I'm not your brother, I relish in the idea of disheartening my enemies.

Resting in Him who created all things, who was with God in the beginning and who was God, who became flesh and dwelt among us, who laid down His life for my sake and who took it up again!,
Clete

Alrighty there you who likes to play the part of a clown.


PAY ATTENTION;

Your child is not you. If I strike you are you to allow for yet another? (speaking spiritually(the sword of GOD is the Spirit, and it cuts the soul, not the vessel))

If I was to attack any child,(literally all children are blessed in the sight of the LORD) are you to defend that child?

Answer these very basic simple things please

 

[popsthebuilder]

Jesus was God the Father with a body before the creation of anything.

What? That is a very curious thing to me. The Spirit of GOD did not need to manifest in physical form in order to create as far as I can tell.

Is that what you are saying?

If so, could you please reference scripture saying such? Thank you in advance.

 

[popsthebuilder]

You're an idiot. Stop listening to the moron that stands behind the pulpit at your church.


This is utter stupidity.

Go ahead, call the man with a knife at your child's throat, "brother". FOOL!

Psalms 139:19-22
Oh, that You would slay the wicked, O God!
Depart from me, therefore, you bloodthirsty men.

For they speak against You wickedly;
Your enemies take Your name in vain.

Do I not hate them, O Lord, who hate You?
And do I not loathe those who rise up against You?

I hate them with perfect hatred;
I count them my enemies.​

You are a complete waste of my time! Why do I even bother to do this?!


Good! You disgust me! You're a filthy heretic who's teachings will land people in an eternal Hell. I'm not your friend, I'm not your brother, I relish in the idea of disheartening my enemies.

Resting in Him who created all things, who was with God in the beginning and who was God, who became flesh and dwelt among us, who laid down His life for my sake and who took it up again!,
Clete

By the way; there is but One priest in the church I attend; be thankful to GOD that mercy will be shown you for even this verbal atrocity. All thanks is to our LORD.

 

[God's Truth]

What? That is a very curious thing to me. The Spirit of GOD did not need to manifest in physical form in order to create as far as I can tell.

Is that what you are saying?

If so, could you please reference scripture saying such? Thank you in advance.

You say God did not need to do something that He did. What does that have to do with anything?

God made the plan for salvation to be through the body of Christ.

Jesus is the First and the Last. God made Himself the body of Christ in the resurrection form First.

God made the whole creation through this body of the resurrected Christ, First.

 

[Right Divider]

You say God did not need to do something that He did. What does that have to do with anything?

God made the plan for salvation to be through the body of Christ.

Jesus is the First and the Last. God made Himself the body of Christ in the resurrection form First.

God made the whole creation through this body of the resurrected Christ, First.

Scripture PLEASE. Keep in IN CONTEXT.

 

[God's Truth]

Scripture PLEASE. Keep in IN CONTEXT.

You saying something is not in contest is no defense for the truth.

 

[steko]

Jesus was never ever Spiritually dead; and, he was never separated from the Father.

Then, He didn't bear our sins of the cross, if that be the case.

 

[Clete]

Nothing but a wordy excuse. Do you know what excuses are like?

Do you know that you are to be eager to explain the reasons for and the breadth of your faith in our Savior?

Would you care for the scripture frenemy?

You aren't negatively affecting me in any way you see; I don't care what any whatsoever think of me, but GOD. you damage your own credibility alone.

Okay, for the sake of others on this thread I've dealt with you longer than my own judgment would have allowed.

No longer.

Goodbye and welcome to my ever growing ignore list.

 

[God's Truth]

Then, He didn't bear our sins of the cross, if that be the case.

Of course he did.

 

[steko]

Of course he did.

Indeed He did, therefore He became separated from the Father, for a time.

The Father did not bear our sins, the Son did.

 

[Clete]

Jesus was never ever Spiritually dead; and, he was never separated from the Father.

Matthew 27:46 And about the ninth hour Jesus cried out with a loud voice, saying, “Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani?” that is, “My God, My God, why have You forsaken Me?”

 

[Right Divider]

You saying something is not in contest is no defense for the truth.

I asked for the SCRIPTURE to support your claims.

Why didn't you give any?

 

[steko]

Matthew 27:46 And about the ninth hour Jesus cried out with a loud voice, saying, “Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani?” that is, “My God, My God, why have You forsaken Me?”

:thumb:

How could anyone miss that?

 

[God's Truth]

Indeed He did, therefore He became separated from the Father, for a time.

The Father did not bear our sins, the Son did.

They are the same.

Jesus was never separated from the Father.

 

[God's Truth]

:thumb:

How could anyone miss that?

When one suffers and dies it is thought that they have been forsaken. That does not mean God ever forsook His Son.

 

[God's Truth]

I asked for the SCRIPTURE to support your claims.

Why didn't you give any?

I will give them to you again. I gave them to you before and you didn't even address them, you merely denied the scriptures say what they do and you insulted me.

 

[God's Truth]

Matthew 27:46 And about the ninth hour Jesus cried out with a loud voice, saying, “Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani?” that is, “My God, My God, why have You forsaken Me?”

When Jesus said that, he was fulfilling the scripture.

Psalm 22:1
For the choir director; upon Aijeleth Hashshahar. A Psalm of David. My God, my God, why have You forsaken me? Far from my deliverance are the words of my groaning.


Did you read that?

That is proof that when one suffers and dies it is as if they have been forsaken by God because God did not save them from that hour.

It does not mean God literally abandoned that person, for we know God the Father did not do that.

 

[steko]

When one suffers and dies it is thought that they have been forsaken. That does not mean God ever forsook His Son.

Rom 8:32 He that spared not his own Son, but delivered him up for us all


Rom 8:32 He who did not spare his own Son but gave him up for us all- ESV