popsthebuilder
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I wasn't really talking about that Mrs. Mary.Mary the mother of God is in heaven right now, the Queen Mother, the mother of the King, Jesus Christ the Lord. She knows Who He is.
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I wasn't really talking about that Mrs. Mary.Mary the mother of God is in heaven right now, the Queen Mother, the mother of the King, Jesus Christ the Lord. She knows Who He is.
That you effectively attempt to limit the capacity of the eternal, all powerful One Creator GOD to that of a mere man is noted.And yet, there's not more mass/energy after the explosion than there was before, so the effect is not greater than the cause, even in that circumstance.
Similarly, you cannot mix enough of any kind of chemicals and get love or emotion.
So, as I stated above, because no one was bold enough to answer my question, since you are a person, and the effect cannot be greater than the Cause, therefore your Creator must be personal.
Exactly; negating the presuposition that "him" declares person or people or beasts but can too refer to asexual or inanimate objects."of his own accord" is correctly translated as automatically or of itself or self-moved, acting without intervention. From the Greek automatos.
It is far better to do an accurate study before posting an opinion.
What do I say that limits God?That you effectively attempt to limit the capacity of the eternal, all powerful One Creator GOD to that of a mere man is noted.
Your asinine logic cannot be unseen. Thankfully; it can be repented of.
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Your opinions are a poor excuse.
With logic like that, I can see why you refuse to believe the truth.
A*persona*(plural personae or personas), in the word's everyday usage, is a social role or a character played by an actor. The word is derived from*Latin, where it originally referred to a theatrical mask.The "legal" definition clearly has to do with human interaction. God is far beyond that topic.
Silly example using a non-existent "person" (Superman). [BTW, Clark Kent is a disguise.... Superman is the 'real guy' in that story].
Your opinions are very poor in my opinion, so I don't really care if you think that it's not "good proof".
Different CONTEXT.
Your blindness will persist until you believe the truth.
And yet, there's not more mass/energy after the explosion than there was before, so the effect is not greater than the cause, even in that circumstance.
Similarly, you cannot mix enough of any kind of chemicals and get love or emotion.
So, as I stated above, because no one was bold enough to answer my question, since you are a person, and the effect cannot be greater than the Cause, therefore your Creator must be personal.
"of his own accord" is correctly translated as automatically or of itself or self-moved, acting without intervention. From the Greek automatos.
It is far better to do an accurate study before posting an opinion.
My creator is GOD alone; also known to me personally as the Christ, the Holy Spirit or Ghost, Lord, GOD, Lord GOD and many other names.Incorrect, I was trying to build up a point, asking questions to find common ground, and find out where we differ, so that I can show the basis for my beliefs, and then if there are differences between my foundation and yours (everyone here's), I can try to fix those, and then move up from there.
I'm trying to provide you with a good foundation on which to build your beliefs, so that doctrinal issues fall into place more easily.
Otherwise there's no end to debates, as it devolves into vain repetition of the same points over and over.
So far, no one has been willing to test their foundational beliefs.
So, Pops, can the effect be greater than the cause, if not, then if you are a person, does that mean that what caused you, is a person, and back to Adam, was he a person? And if so, was his Creator something less than a person?
If Adam was the effect, is the Uncaused Cause personal, because the effect cannot be greater than the cause?
The "legal" definition clearly has to do with human interaction. God is far beyond that topic.
Silly example using a non-existent "person" (Superman). [BTW, Clark Kent is a disguise.... Superman is the 'real guy' in that story].
Your opinions are very poor in my opinion, so I don't really care if you think that it's not "good proof".
Your blindness will persist until you believe the truth.
No you didn't.
Jesus being the "son of man" relates to him as a human, Jesus became human when he came to earth as John 1:14 and Phil 2:7 state. Jesus was NOT the "son of man" prior to coming to earth. The verses you showed stating the "son of man" came from heaven is not proof that Jesus was the son of man prior to becoming human anymore than me saying "Paul persecuted Christians", Paul was called Saul at the time he persecuted Christians. My statement does not mean the statement Paul persecuted Christians after being named Paul, its simply me referring to Paul's and his most recent name. Likewise when the bible writer referred to the "son of man" coming from heaven he wasn't claiming Jesus was the "son of Man" prior coming to earth, if he was then it would contradict that Jesus became flesh/human.
I've never denied the Son of God came from heaven.
You're denying that Jacob was blessing them. Let's resolve this quick, does the account in Genesis 48 say Jacob blessed the boys by these two citations, yes or no?
“Bring them to me, please, so that I may bless them."
No, but it can be understood that way, but doesn't necessitate it. I can say "the King before whom I walked, The King who has looked after me, 16 The Queen who has been recovering me from all calamity, give me money". No one would read this and think the Queen was the king, they could read it that way if they really wanted to, but they could not deny that the statement could be read in more than one sense.
No one's worshiping Mary.
Everyone in heaven can. :idunno:
The post I was responding to.Show me where I said 'worship'.
Yeah, so?Everyone in heaven can hear EVERYONE's prayers?
I don't need to judge when God has already made it clear. All I'm doing is summarizing his word.
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Yeah, so?
The post I was responding to.
Are you drunk?