The Trinity

The Trinity


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keypurr

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Your entire theology rests on the idea that we should worship a being who is not God. Yet if Jesus Christ is not God, He is not worthy of worship, but many times in the Bible we see Him being worshipped. So does the Bible contradict itself, saying that God tells us not to worship anything/anyone but Him, but yet also shows Jesus receiving worship?

https://www.gotquestions.org/Jesus-worshipped.html

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Knees were bent for Kings in the OT. Does that mean that they worship him? I have been very clear who I worship.

I love the God of my Lord Jesus Christ.

What do you not understand about that?

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keypurr

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How often has he shown up personally and who did he bring with him?
He is in me Jamie, he rules my life. I wake up and he is there, I go to work and he is with me.

I believe he has set me apart to do his work in my every day life. To display his love and shine with it to glorify his Father who sent him.

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keypurr

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No servant is greater than his master, Christ is a servant of his God. We all should be servants of his God. I try to overcome the greed in this world and see what really counts. Consider the lilies in the field my friend. Contentment comes from within.

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No servant is greater than his master, Christ is a servant of his God. We all should be servants of his God. I try to overcome the greed in this world and see what really counts. Consider the lilies in the field my friend. Contentment comes from within.

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That sounds like some buddhist mantra.

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jamie

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He is in me Jamie, he rules my life. I wake up and he is there, I go to work and he is with me.

I believe he has set me apart to do his work in my every day life. To display his love and shine with it to glorify his Father who sent him.

I don't doubt your sincerity, keypurr. However, bearing false witness of Christ will keep you out of the kingdom and relegate you to the second resurrection.

If you didn't know better that would be one thing, but you've been told many times by various people that your understanding is flawed. Instead of correcting it you keep claiming the same thing over and over, but you offer no proof.

The Father seeks those who will worship him in Spirit and in truth. You've fallen short in the area of truth.
 

keypurr

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I don't doubt your sincerity, keypurr. However, bearing false witness of Christ will keep you out of the kingdom and relegate you to the second resurrection.

If you didn't know better that would be one thing, but you've been told many times by various people that your understanding is flawed. Instead of correcting it you keep claiming the same thing over and over, but you offer no proof.

The Father seeks those who will worship him in Spirit and in truth. You've fallen short in the area of truth.

I only concern myself with what the Lord thinks of me.

I am not here to please prople, I am here to share and learn.

You are not qualified to judge me jamie. Nor I you.

How would you know if I do not worship him is spirit?

Your only talking foolishness now, who knows what's in the heart of another person?


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jamie

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You are not qualified to judge me jamie. Nor I you.

I'm not judging you as a person, but I have the prerogative of comparing what you claim about the God family with what scripture says.

There is no scripture that says character can be created by decree. On the contrary Lucifer was perfectly created and yet he sinned. Adam was perfectly created and yet he sinned. The preincarnate Christ couldn't sin because he was a God person.

As a human Jesus developed the character to resist sin.

Jesus was resurrected as a God person and God persons cannot sin.

Claiming that the preincarnate God person referred to as Christ was created is sin. There is no scriptural support.
 

balut55

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I don't doubt your sincerity, keypurr. However, bearing false witness of Christ will keep you out of the kingdom and relegate you to the second resurrection.

If you didn't know better that would be one thing, but you've been told many times by various people that your understanding is flawed. Instead of correcting it you keep claiming the same thing over and over, but you offer no proof.

The Father seeks those who will worship him in Spirit and in truth. You've fallen short in the area of truth.





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keypurr

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I'm not judging you as a person, but I have the prerogative of comparing what you claim about the God family with what scripture says.

There is no scripture that says character can be created by decree. On the contrary Lucifer was perfectly created and yet he sinned. Adam was perfectly created and yet he sinned. The preincarnate Christ couldn't sin because he was a God person.

As a human Jesus developed the character to resist sin.

Jesus was resurrected as a God person and God persons cannot sin.

Claiming that the preincarnate God person referred to as Christ was created is sin. There is no scriptural support.

Character is a product of enviroment. We must consider more than just character. Christ is call a creature, an image. The words are there in a number of translations. God created his exact image in every way and gave it his fullness. You just do not see what that means.

The spirit son is a clone of the Father in every way.

And the Father was pleased that it contained his fullness.


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keypurr

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The Trinity

Heb 1:3

(KJV) Who being the brightness of his glory, and the express image of his person, and upholding all things by the word of his power, when he had by himself purged our sins, sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high;

(ESV) He is the radiance of the glory of God and the exact imprint of his nature, and he upholds the universe by the word of his power. After making purification for sins, he sat down at the right hand of the Majesty on high,

(NRSV) He is the reflection of God's glory and the exact imprint of God's very being, and he sustains all things by his powerful word. When he had made purification for sins, he sat down at the right hand of the Majesty on high,

(NKJV) who being the brightness of His glory and the express image of His person, and upholding all things by the word of His power, when He had by Himself purged our sins, sat down at the right hand of the Majesty on high,

(NASB) And He is the radiance of His glory and the exact representation of His nature, and upholds all things by the word of His power. When He had made purification of sins, He sat down at the right hand of the Majesty on high,

(NIV) The Son is the radiance of God's glory and the exact representation of his being, sustaining all things by his powerful word. After he had provided purification for sins, he sat down at the right hand of the Majesty in heaven.

Col 1:15

(KJV) Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature:

(ESV) He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of all creation.

(NRSV) He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of all creation;

(NKJV) He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation.

(NASB) He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of all creation.

(NIV) The Son is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation.


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Jamie said:
There is no scripture that says character can be created by decree. On the contrary Lucifer was perfectly created and yet he sinned. Adam was perfectly created and yet he sinned. The preincarnate Christ couldn't sin because he was a God person.

There is a major flaw in your writing here that needs to be addressed. If Lucifer and Adam were perfectly created, then by all logic and definition they would not be able to sin. Please explain to me how you came up with such a conclusion, the rational behind it, and the scriptural evidence to support it.
 

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There is a major flaw in your writing here that needs to be addressed. If Lucifer and Adam were perfectly created, then by all logic and definition they would not be able to sin. Please explain to me how you came up with such a conclusion, the rational behind it, and the scriptural evidence to support it.
Genesis 1:31

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