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Our spirit IS us. So tell me if Jesus himself lives in you.
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Our spirit IS us. So tell me if Jesus himself lives in you.
No it doesn't. Who was God's eldest son, Christ?
You reject Jesus in you?
John 14:23 King James Version (KJV)
23 Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him.
keypurr
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Wrong. You refuse to believe John 1:1. The Word (logos) is eternal not created.
John 1:1 King James Version (KJV)
1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
If Christ was the first creation please explain how everything was created through him?
keypurr
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Christ is in me, not the man Jesus.
The spirit of Christ rules my life.
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keypurr
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What do you consider the beginning BR?
I would say when the creation took place.
God created all through his spirit son. (Logos)
Why are you not seeing that?
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You reject more scripture!
Colossians 1:27 King James Version (KJV)
27 To whom God would make known what is the riches of the glory of this mystery among the Gentiles; which is Christ in you, the hope of glory:
keypurr
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Only God can answer that.
Gen 1, and the spirit of God moved across the face of the waters. The Father said do it and Christ did it for he was given the fullness of his Father. He is a created form of God. Notice the word "form". God was pleased that he contained the fullness of himself. He was God's first creation/creature.
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Then why do you claim he was born if he was simply created?
Does scripture claim that any of the angels were born, we know they were created?
keypurr
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Your full of baloney BR, I said that Christ was in me.
There is a difference between the man jesus and the logos (Christ) that was in him.
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No he can't, God doesn't lie nor does he have a high opinion of liars.
You contradict scriptures that say everything was created through Christ, and without him nothing was made that was made.
All things were made through Him, and without Him nothing was made that was made. (John 1:3)
keypurr
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Christ the spirit son was with the Father before the creation, Jesus was a man born to Mary millions of years later.
Only teach Father is uncreated, everything else is a creature for it was created. In other words your either God the Father or a creation/creature.
Col 1:15 the son is called a creature and an image.
HEB 1:3 Says he is the express image of the Father.
ALL IMAGES ARE CREATIONS. ALL CREATURES ARE CREATIONS.
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Well then you do not believe this!
Matthew 1:16 King James Version (KJV)
16 And Jacob begat Joseph the husband of Mary, of whom was born Jesus, who is called Christ.
keypurr
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That's what I have been preaching to you jamie.
All things were created by the Father through his spirit son.
Not Jesus. Jesus did not exist until he was born.
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keypurr
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That was written forty years later. Jesus had to grow in wisdom. The logos created the worlds, if the logos was in him he would have not needed to grow in wisdom.
President Kennedy was born in Boston.
Was he President when he was born?
I don't think so BR.
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Jerry Shugart
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Then why do we read that it was the "son of Man" who came down from heaven?:
"And no man hath ascended up to heaven, but he that came down from heaven, even the son of man which is in heaven" (Jn.3:16).
So you are saying that Jesus is not the Christ?
Not true.
He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation. (Colossians 1:15)
Firstborn, not first created. Anyone born has a father and a mother. It's been that way for some time now.