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Bright Raven

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You say the Holy Spirit is not the Father, but scripture says he is.

If the Holy Spirit is not God the Father, then how does God the Father live in you?




How does Jesus himself live in you?



Same entity? What is the entity?

1. Show one scripture that states specifically that the Father is the Holy Spirit.

2. How do any of the three live in us? It is a mystery.

3. Some times I wonder about you. The entity is God.
 

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God is Spirit. There is only One Spirit. Whose Spirit do you think is given to the saved?



The mystery is revealed.



God is Spirit, and you said Jesus is not Spirit. So how is Jesus God?

1. You have not given a scripture that states the Father is the Holy Spirit.

2. I give you a partial here in that you said the mystery is revealed. Colossians 1:27

3. Because Jesus is an eternal being who was in the beginning with God before creation.
 

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1. You have not given a scripture that states the Father is the Holy Spirit.

2. I give you a partial here in that you said the mystery is revealed. Colossians 1:27

3. Because Jesus is an eternal being who was in the beginning with God before creation.

If the Spirit isn't the Spirit of God the Father, whose Spirit is it?
 

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Joh 14:1 Let not your heart be troubled: ye believe in God, believe also in me.

What that tell you?


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1. You have not given a scripture that states the Father is the Holy Spirit.

2. I give you a partial here in that you said the mystery is revealed. Colossians 1:27

3. Because Jesus is an eternal being who was in the beginning with God before creation.

Jesus being a man was born to Mary. The spirit in him is eternal.


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If the Spirit isn't the Spirit of God the Father, whose Spirit is it?
The Holy Spirit is a person. Yes, God is spirit, and Jesus was spirit, then became flesh and spirit, but the Holy Spirit is also a spirit. They each have a will. Jesus' will is to obey the Father. The Father's will is that the Son will love the Father. The Holy Spirit's will is that all would come to know God as their savior.

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The Holy Spirit is a person. Yes, God is spirit, and Jesus was spirit, then became flesh and spirit, but the Holy Spirit is also a spirit. They each have a will. Jesus' will is to obey the Father. The Father's will is that the Son will love the Father. The Holy Spirit's will is that all would come to know God as their savior.

There is only ONE Divine Spirit.

Ephesians 4;4 There is one body and one Spirit, just as you were called to one hope when you were called;


Since there is only one Spirit, you need to stop saying there is more than one.
 

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Glad to see you confess that Jesus is eternal. Now all you need to do is confess Him as Lord.

You just got through telling keypurr that Jesus is eternal---you said that about him saying Jesus the spirit in him is eternal. HOWEVER, you told me Jesus is not Spirit.

Why the confusion?
 

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There is only ONE Divine Spirit.

Ephesians 4;4 There is one body and one Spirit, just as you were called to one hope when you were called;


Since there is only one Spirit, you need to stop saying there is more than one.

The Holy Spirit is God, Jesus is God, and the Father is God.

"Baptising them in the name [again, singular 'name,' yet three 'names' are given as one] of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit."

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The Holy Spirit is a person with a will. Or did you forget Acts 5:1-11 (which, by the way, is titled, "Lying to the Holy Spirit")?

That scripture about lying to the Holy Spirit is about lying to God.

Acts 5:4 Didn't it belong to you before it was sold? And after it was sold, wasn't the money at your disposal? What made you think of doing such a thing? You have not lied just to human beings but to God."


Did you read that?

The Holy Spirit they lied to was God.


Acts 5:3
Then Peter said, "Ananias, how is it that Satan has filled your heart to lie to the Holy Spirit and withhold some of the proceeds from the land?

Acts 5:9
"How could you agree to test the Spirit of the Lord?" Peter replied. "Look, the feet of the men who buried your husband are at the door, and they will carry you out also."


So you can see from the scriptures that the Holy Spirit is the Spirit of the Lord, and is God.
 

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The Holy Spirit is God, Jesus is God, and the Father is God.

"Baptising them in the name [again, singular 'name,' yet three 'names' are given as one] of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit."

There is only ONE God.

You are arguing for three different Gods with three different wills.

Not possible.
 

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That scripture about lying to the Holy Spirit is about lying to God.

Acts 5:4 Didn't it belong to you before it was sold? And after it was sold, wasn't the money at your disposal? What made you think of doing such a thing? You have not lied just to human beings but to God."


Did you read that?

The Holy Spirit they lied to was God.


Acts 5:3
Then Peter said, "Ananias, how is it that Satan has filled your heart to lie to the Holy Spirit and withhold some of the proceeds from the land?

Acts 5:9
"How could you agree to test the Spirit of the Lord?" Peter replied. "Look, the feet of the men who buried your husband are at the door, and they will carry you out also."


So you can see from the scriptures that the Holy Spirit is the Spirit of the Lord, and is God.
GT, You're not in contradiction with what I said, only that you forget that the Holy Spirit is one of the persons of the Godhead. The Holy Spirit is God, Jesus is God, and the Father is God. Those are the three persons in the Godhead which we call the 'Trinity.'

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