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marhig said:
Oh ok, sorry.

But there's just one thing, I believe the we are in hell when we don't live by the will of God. Because satan had control of us when we live by the lusts of our flesh.

So those being saved, are those walking in the spirit, following Christ Jesus and living by the will of God.

I truly hope for as many as possible to hear the truth, to believe and repent and turn to Christ and be lifted out of the pit of hell in this lifetime!

There's hope for everyone until their last breath, then it's all in Gods hands.

Sorry that I didn't read your posts that you had written before, I was wrong to just jump in like that.
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It happens, don't worry about it :)

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JudgeRightly said:
Why would the New Testament be written in Aramaic and then translated into Greek? Greek was the common language in Jesus' day.

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Aramaic was the language he spoke. My understanding is that most originals were Aramaic or Hebrew. Not being an expert I would say go to the Eastern Church and see why they make that claim.

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JudgeRightly said:
It's not. It's quite literal.



They're not held on the Sabbath (which is Saturday) because God rested on the 7th day.



Because most don't know the Bible. They've become lactose intolerant to even the milk of the Bible, let alone the meat.



kgov.com/Christmas



Denver Bible Church has no foundation or church backing them. They rely on the truth of the Bible to bring in members.



Again, not all churches. Denver Bible Church is structured to teach the Word of God, the Truth, not some extra-biblical theology.



There are answers available to all of those questions and more. If you'd like, I will purchase you a copy of "The Plot" for you to read, which is an overview of the entire Bible. I'll even purchase the audio version instead of the written version, which I found to be far easier to understand. You need to submit yourself to teaching of raw unadulterated truth.

store.kgov.com/the-plot

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You book has been mentioned before Bob. I would be interested in reading it. But I am in the mid section of my AENT and the reading is slow. But I will consider picking it up in the near future. Thank you for your offer.

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meshak said:
I don't think you have to rely on that to answer my question. It is very simple, brother.
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Alright, I'll do my best, though I still recommend you listen to it. :)

Hell is a place of punishment, a prison of sorts. It's where "some will be beaten with many stripes, and some with few." (kgov.com/equal) However, God is not a sadist. He's not sick, but He has to do something with those who reject Him, who don't want to be with Him for all of eternity. Here's an analogy I use all the time when talking about this subject:

A man kidnaps a woman and builds her a dream home, but places her inside and cements up the windows, and locks the doors to the outside. He then demands that she love him, because he loves her, but because she was never given the choice, she hates him, despises him, and resists his every move toward her.

Is this man's love sick or healthy?

Another man approaches a woman, woos her, but always tells her that if she wants to leave him, he will not keep her. But she always chooses to stay, and eventually they get married, and he builds her a dream home, and brings her into it, and asks that she loves him, but again points out that if she wants out, there's the door.

Is this man's love sick or healthy?

The first man's love is sick. It's extremely unhealthy, even perverse. It represents the kind of god who loves everyone and doesn't send anyone to Hell. God is not like this man. God does not force those who hate Him to live with Him forever.

The second man's love is beautiful and very healthy. It represents the God of the Bible, who is loving and merciful, but also righteous and just. His love is a healthy love, it is not perverse. God's need for justice requires that there be a punishment for sin. Those who reject Him their entire lives even to the point of death are not forgiven of their sins, and MUST pay the penalty. So those who die rejecting God are sent to Hell, where they will receive the punishment for their sins.

This brings me back to my point that God is not a sadist. He is not unhealthy. God will not punish people forever. However, He will not force someone to live with Him for all eternity, so He can't allow them into Heaven after they have been punished, because they would turn Heaven into Hell because of their hatred for God, so He sends them to the Lake of Fire, where the soul-spirits of those who reject him will spend thee rest of eternity.

The "Fire" in the Lake is not literal fire. There is nothing 'physical' about the Lake, nor will those who are cast into it have a physical body, so they will not be able to feel physical pain, such as burning. No, the 'fire' is a description of the emotional pain that will be experienced, that is self-caused by those who reject God.

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JudgeRightly said:
Alright, I'll do my best, though I still recommend you listen to it. :)

Hell is a place of punishment, a prison of sorts. It's where "some will be beaten with many stripes, and some with few." (kgov.com/equal) However, God is not a sadist. He's not sick, but He has to do something with those who reject Him, who don't want to be with Him for all of eternity. Here's an analogy I use all the time when talking about this subject:

A man kidnaps a woman and builds her a dream home, but places her inside and cements up the windows, and locks the doors to the outside. He then demands that she love him, because he loves her, but because she was never given the choice, she hates him, despises him, and resists his every move toward her.

Is this man's love sick or healthy?

Another man approaches a woman, woos her, but always tells her that if she wants to leave him, he will not keep her. But she always chooses to stay, and eventually they get married, and he builds her a dream home, and brings her into it, and asks that she loves him, but again points out that if she wants out, there's the door.

Is this man's love sick or healthy?

The first man's love is sick. It's extremely unhealthy, even perverse. It represents the kind of god who loves everyone and doesn't send anyone to Hell. God is not like this man. God does not force those who hate Him to live with Him forever.

The second man's love is beautiful and very healthy. It represents the God of the Bible, who is loving and merciful, but also righteous and just. His love is a healthy love, it is not perverse. God's need for justice requires that there be a punishment for sin. Those who reject Him their entire lives even to the point of death are not forgiven of their sins, and MUST pay the penalty. So those who die rejecting God are sent to Hell, where they will receive the punishment for their sins.

This brings me back to my point that God is not a sadist. He is not unhealthy. God will not punish people forever. However, He will not force someone to live with Him for all eternity, so He can't allow them into Heaven after they have been punished, because they would turn Heaven into Hell because of their hatred for God, so He sends them to the Lake of Fire, where the soul-spirits of those who reject him will spend thee rest of eternity.

The "Fire" in the Lake is not literal fire. There is nothing 'physical' about the Lake, nor will those who are cast into it have a physical body, so they will not be able to feel physical pain, such as burning. No, the 'fire' is a description of the emotional pain that will be experienced, that is self-caused by those who reject God.

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So you believe non-believers will be sent to hell and receive emotional pain for eternity.

Is it right?
 
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