The Trinity

[Lon]

The words of the Christ of GOD himself don't have precedence over others?

Right, so this is where we leave the text and start conjecture. The closer we stay to the actual text, the better, else it is just us making it up, as to what we think best, as we muse. It seems to me, we are to be molded by scripture, not attempt to mold it. :e4e: -Lon

 

[glorydaz]

That did not answer my question.

There is only one Gospel.

Does St. Paul claim there are two?

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It does answer your question. Don't blame me if you can't hear what it's saying.

 

[popsthebuilder]

Right, so this is where we leave the text and start conjecture. The closer we stay to the actual text, the better, else it is just us making it up, as to what we think best, as we muse. It seems to me, we are to be molded by scripture, not attempt to mold it. :e4e: -Lon

Right, as in you agree?

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[popsthebuilder]

It does answer your question. Don't blame me if you can't hear what it's saying.

You aren't making sense to me.

Same message throughout all scripture anyway so what are you talking about?


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[Lon]

Right, as in you agree?

As in "okay, now we are leaving the text into speculation."

The words of the Christ of GOD himself don't have precedence over others?

I don't believe it ever a good idea to pit scripture against scripture. If we cannot reconcile ideas, we need to take a step back (which I believe is the triune position btw - both Modalists and Arians are committed to further doctrines than I believe scripture allows. IOW, it is extra-biblical in nature).

From John 1:1. Who is this book about? What character are introduced from John 1:1-18? Please list him/her/them from scripture for me? Thanks.

 

[lifeisgood]

Show how it is nonsense if you can.

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Nonsense because even though a 2-year-old child would answer without even having to reason about the question posited "How much OBEYING / RIGHT did the thief on the Cross presented to Jesus for Jesus to find him righteous and save him?"

'Scholars' don't have the guts to answer the question posited because if they really answered like a child would, it destroys their false doctrine and that is frightening to them and they know it.

 

[lifeisgood]

Then why did you misconstrue my words as if you did not?

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That is your comprehension talking.

 

[lifeisgood]

Yeah, because me saying the Spirit is my witness is soooo relying on my own understanding.

What a joke.

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Aren't you who said:

If three separate persons making one god then any of the three by themselves would be 1/3 of the whole.

How many 1/3 can you find in these passages? John 1:1; John 10:30; Isaiah 45:5; Psalm 110:1,5 Matthew 22:44, Mark 12:36, Luke 20:42 Acts 2:34; Hebrews 1:8?

 

[lifeisgood]

If you would obey God He would give you wisdom and you wouldn't say such dumb things.

Why don't you obey Jesus, gt?

Have you sold all you have and given it all to the poor?
Have you started your ministry in Jerusalem and the surrounding villages/cities, etc.?

 

[lifeisgood]

You don't even understand that you obeyed to be saved.

Foolish doctrine the one you peddle around.

I believe today is November 19, 2017, how much doing is that?

You are a DISobedient servant, even though you fill your mouth saying that you OBEY EVERYTHING Jesus said EXACTLY, but then when asked, you say, 'ooops, no not that one, nah, that one either' ad nauseum.

 

[lifeisgood]

I have only asked questions. I have not gone against you as far as obedience is concerned.

Don't you know BR that we can't ask gt questions, because she has not found a verse that says, 'you can ask questions of gt' only verses that say 'don't question gt's false doctrine'. :chuckle:

 

[lifeisgood]

If you would obey God He would give you wisdom and you wouldn't say such dumb things.

I believe today is November 19, 2017, how much doing is that?

 

[lifeisgood]

You don't even understand that you obeyed to be saved.

I believe today is November 19, 2017, how much doing is that?

 

[God's Truth]

Why don't you obey Jesus, gt?

Have you sold all you have and given it all to the poor?
Have you started your ministry in Jerusalem and the surrounding villages/cities, etc.?

Jesus didn't tell everyone to sell and become traveling ministers with him.

Jesus had a friend named Martha. Jesus came to her home and ate... Show where Jesus told her she had to give away her home.

Start giving scriptures for the things you say instead out posting nonsense to me.

 

[God's Truth]

Foolish doctrine the one you peddle around.

I believe today is November 19, 2017, how much doing is that?

You are a DISobedient servant, even though you fill your mouth saying that you OBEY EVERYTHING Jesus said EXACTLY, but then when asked, you say, 'ooops, no not that one, nah, that one either' ad nauseum.

You are not speaking the truth.

Jesus says to humble yourself.

You said you humbled yourself.

Whether or not you knew Jesus said to do that...you still did it and more importantly, Jesus teaches it.

I am here to speak about God's Truth and not about things taught from demons. Satan is the prince of the air and puts thoughts into the minds of humans. You have to check your doctrine and your life carefully. You have not done that.

 

[popsthebuilder]

As in "okay, now we are leaving the text into speculation."


I don't believe it ever a good idea to pit scripture against scripture. If we cannot reconcile ideas, we need to take a step back (which I believe is the triune position btw - both Modalists and Arians are committed to further doctrines than I believe scripture allows. IOW, it is extra-biblical in nature).

From John 1:1. Who is this book about? What character are introduced from John 1:1-18? Please list him/her/them from scripture for me? Thanks.

I will list them, but what does that have to do with the words of Jesus taking precedence over the words of others in scripture?

I agree that scripture shouldn't be pitted against scripture, but to me it all says the same thing anyway so there shouldn't be any issue.

Now I will read John 1:1-18 and list the characters spoken of because you asked and I'm sure you have some reason for continuing to go back to that single verse when we have all of scripture to use and learn from.

-God
-John
-Moses
-Jesus the Christ


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[popsthebuilder]

Nonsense because even though a 2-year-old child would answer without even having to reason about the question posited "How much OBEYING / RIGHT did the thief on the Cross presented to Jesus for Jesus to find him righteous and save him?"

'Scholars' don't have the guts to answer the question posited because if they really answered like a child would, it destroys their false doctrine and that is frightening to them and they know it.

It has been answered by me, honestly.

I will answer it a third time for you though.

He believed.

That belief was causal to the words that came out of the thiefs' mouth, rebuking the other.

Believe is causal to action.

In this case the action brought about by faith in Christ was the words the thief spoke towards the other.

As simple as it gets and truthful.

What else do you want?

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[popsthebuilder]

That is your comprehension talking.

No;according to your own previous words; I thought GOD was but a perspective.
Then when corrected you said you understood after all that I was only speaking of the perspectives of which we can know of or experience GOD.

but according to you, you knew that as well.

So either you were initially being disingenuous, or you are being so now.

Either way, it is the same;

not genuine.

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[popsthebuilder]

Aren't you who said:


How many 1/3 can you find in these passages? John 1:1; John 10:30; Isaiah 45:5; Psalm 110:1,5 Matthew 22:44, Mark 12:36, Luke 20:42 Acts 2:34; Hebrews 1:8?

There you go again.

It is a logical deduction made from the separate spirits / persons of the trinity doctrine that together make up the wholeness of GOD, yet was also in whole form within one single person names Jesus.

If three parts make a whole then any one part isn't the whole in itself.

I'm sorry you are having trouble with the most basic of logic, but if you ask our Lord GOD for discernment and clarity then I'm sure you will begin to see the flaw in your logic which even a child could pinpoint for you.

This is not meant as an attack, but is hoped to be an eye opener.


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[popsthebuilder]

Foolish doctrine the one you peddle around.

I believe today is November 19, 2017, how much doing is that?

You are a DISobedient servant, even though you fill your mouth saying that you OBEY EVERYTHING Jesus said EXACTLY, but then when asked, you say, 'ooops, no not that one, nah, that one either' ad nauseum.

Why are you so worried about what she does?

Are we told to remove the blinders from our eyes that we might guide others after, or does it say judge all but self whom is safe regardless of action and word?



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