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One means the same. How can you learn about what God says if you don't even know your own language?
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One means the same. How can you learn about what God says if you don't even know your own language?
glorydaz
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It's your claims that your obeying is what saves you is wrong.
Stop twisting what others say. That is wrong. Stop lying about what others say. That is wrong.
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Do you really want to keep gong against what God says?
Genesis 26:4-5 I will make your descendants as numerous as the stars in the sky and will give them all these lands, and through your offspring all nations on earth will be blessed, because Abraham obeyed me and kept my requirements, my commands, my decrees and my laws."
glorydaz
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First you have to be smarter than any particular word on a page.
Example.....
Ephesians 5:31 For this cause shall a man leave his father and mother, and shall be joined unto his wife, and they two shall be one flesh.
glorydaz
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He doubted God's promise, though, and took Hagar into his tent.
Do you really want to claim you know what God says? :rotfl:
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Show where ANYWHERE in the Bible it was wrong to obey. Show it now or change your mind.
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So was GOD wrong when He said:
Genesis 26:4-5 I will make your descendants as numerous as the stars in the sky and will give them all these lands, and through your offspring all nations on earth will be blessed, because Abraham obeyed me and kept my requirements, my commands, my decrees and my laws."
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Is that where you say God compares Himself to a husband and wife? Answer.
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There are not different Persons, there is One God.
Tell me how you like it when Catholics explain why they call their brothers 'father', or how they are not really bowing to the statues they bow to.
glorydaz
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Is it possible you can be that stupid?
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Is He wrong when He says we believe unto righteousness?
glorydaz
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That's where it says two can be one. Don't answer.
glorydaz
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One God....the Father, Son, and Spirit. One name even.
Matthew 28:19 Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:
They're smarter than you are, so I won't need to tell them anything.
They know quite well that men are not God even if you call them by a particular name.
And they know the statue is only a representation of the person they worship.
That's more than you know.
You clearly missed my point.
It wasn't an analogy. It was an example of what the word "echad" means, it means "one of plurality." Not "one of singularity."
Did Jesus say, "This is my beloved Son, in Whom I am well pleased"?
No, not yet.
I don't have a wife, at least not yet.
You have clearly missed the point I was making above, meaning it would be pointless to respond to the rest of this paragraph.
So, just out of curiosity, why did you make the distinction just there? Why not just say "Never ever is obeying Jesus' words as doing something wrong"?
Because it's not our own language that we're using. We're using the original Hebrew to understand what was said, because some Hebrew words have more depth of meaning than do English words that has, at least somewhat, been lost in translation.
GT, I can't tell you how many times I've told you that in Hebrew there is more than one word for the word "one."
"Yachad," "bad," and "echad," all mean "one," but "yachad" and "bad" mean "one (singular)," as in, "one person," "one bicycle," and "one king." "Echad," however, means "one (of plurality)," as in "the two shall become 'one (of plurality)' flesh," and "the people are 'one (of plurality)' and they all have 'one (of plurality)' language."
The same word is used not just every so often, but EVERY SINGLE TIME in the Old Testament, to describe God as "one God."
He is 'one (of plurality)' God.
The first verse in the Bible shows that God is a plurality, but still one being.
In the beginning, God (plural noun for God) created (singular verb for create).
In English, that would be a grammatical error, and you'd get marked off if you wrote like that in school. But Moses intentionally wrote the verse that way. Or what, do you really think that he made a grammatical mistake in the very first verse of the Bible? Did God inspire him to make a mistake like that?
GT, my questions for you are these:
Did Jesus say, "This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased"?
Why did you make the distinction between "Jesus' words" and "God's words" above if you believe that they are one and the same?
Do you comprehend that the english word "one" does not always have the same meaning, and that it's a poor substitution for the Hebrew words "yachad," "bad," and "echad"?
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Show it or change your mind.
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God does not compare Himself to a husband and wife!
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Belief alone is DEAD and CANNOT save anyone!
glorydaz
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YOU show your own stupidity, and all can see it. It's recorded right here on TOL. The evidence is overwhelming.
I can't change my mind about your stupidity.....you have to change your stupidity. :doh:
glorydaz
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There you go lying about what I said. Stop lying. It's getting to be worse than your pride.
glorydaz
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Belief is never alone....there is always an object of that belief.
In my case, it's Jesus.
In your case, it's yourself.
Belief is never alone....it is partnered with Grace.
We are saved by Grace through faith....that not of YOURSELF.