The Trinity

[God's Truth]

Yes, foolish, foolish woman.



The FINISHED WORK for salvation is Jesus Christ and His finished/completed work at the Cross of Calvary and He placing all who call on His name in Him.

I write this to you so that you will not sin. But if anybody does sin, we have an advocate with the Father--Jesus Christ, the Righteous One.

How do you get that goes against obeying?
If anyone does sin---they have to repent.

 

[Rosenritter]

Maybe those fellows legitimizing the canon shoulda cast lots? :think:

I think the modern equivalent of lots is prayer and fasting. I don't know enough of the canonization process to vouch for any individuals, but even among chaos I believe that the results were within God's power to guide the outcome.

Besides this, I have investigated some of the non-canonical books on my own, and I think I understand why they weren't chosen.

 

[lifeisgood]

Saying that being freed from sin is actually free to sin is wholly and utterly wrong and yes; it too is synonymous with saying or believing one is simultaneously a sinner and a saint. Should and could are your supposed operative words; my position is that neither is available for the saved believer as Jesus died once for all sin. That really doesn't mean He dies perpetually for our perpetual sin.
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You really have been infected with gt's gravy train.


Hebrews 12:2 - Looking unto Jesus the author AND finisher of our faith; who for the joy that was set before him endured the cross, despising the shame, and is set down at the right hand of the throne of God.

He started the good work in us. He will finish it. He sent the Holy Spirit that when we sin, not if we will sin, but when we sin, we can boldly go to the throne of grace to obtain mercy, when we put both feet into the mud of sin (Hebrews 4:16).

 

[Rosenritter]

I believe that we are spiritual creatures inhabiting a fleshy body, and that we possess souls that allow us to relate and communicate meaningfully with, at least to some degree, other creatures that have souls.

Humans are body, soul, and spirit. Many animals (such as dogs, cats, horses, etc.) are body and soul, but no spirit, and some are only body (such as bugs). They won't be going to heaven, (sorry, animal lovers). Plants are physical bodies, but do not have either soul or spirit.

Ecclesiastes 3:18-21 KJV
(18) I said in mine heart concerning the estate of the sons of men, that God might manifest them, and that they might see that they themselves are beasts.
(19) For that which befalleth the sons of men befalleth beasts; even one thing befalleth them: as the one dieth, so dieth the other; yea, they have all one breath; so that a man hath no preeminence above a beast: for all is vanity.
(20) All go unto one place; all are of the dust, and all turn to dust again.
(21) Who knoweth the spirit of man that goeth upward, and the spirit of the beast that goeth downward to the earth?

Animals also have spirit...

 

[God's Truth]

I don't consider the picture or the painting idol worship. Whether a thing is an idol or not depends upon its intent or how it is used in practice.

I believe it is wrong. No one knows what Jesus looks like.

 

[lifeisgood]

Yet you openly deny your own scriptural reference when you say you are free to knowingly sin.

You are without excuse as you are not ignorant according to your own words; so what will you say when questioned about your direction you chose?

Do remember that the unbeliever isn't the heathen but the deceiver.

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Highlighted is a libel statement.

 

[lifeisgood]

You say you have to have faith. That is something you do.

Nah. All come with a measure of faith.

 

[Rosenritter]

Oh... Most certainly didn't thank it because she put you down... And really didn't notice it apparently.

At times I will thumb a post for simply bringing up a good point or new perspective and don't care if they are putting me down. I didn't mean to assume the same of you or insinuate that I agree with the degradation or defamation of your character.

Thank you for the clarification.

peace

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GT, I have spoken out to you a few times when you were being inflammatory, short, and insulting. This was because I cared. Each time you responded angrily, claiming I was "insulting you" and stated that it was your intent to argue, not to reach understanding with others or seek resolution. A few others times I tried adding lightening the angry mood with a light casual comment, or even a joke. Here also you sought to take offense, to try to start an argument out of that.

Somehow, long ago, I got the impression that people were unfairly targeting you. Now, I understand that although some of the things that are said might be a unfair or a bit more than uncharitable, I also understand why it happens. You are reaping what you sow.

Since I can't help you, and you attack pretty much anyone that responds with anything less than total agreement, I've put you on ignore. This cuts down the "GT factor" by half, as you only show in other's quotations now. If you want to persist in saying that you are terribly offended or hurt, show the exact text of whatever you think was offensive and send me a private message so that I know to look for it. Thank you.

 

[lifeisgood]

How do you get that goes against obeying?
If anyone does sin---they have to repent.

Repentance is not obeying. Repentance is sincere regret or remorse. It is a heart thing. Nothing to do with doing.

 

[Rosenritter]

John 3:16New American Standard Bible (NASB)

16 “For God so loved the world, that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him shall not perish, but have eternal life.

Where do you see the word obey in this verse?

With other context in mind, perhaps here? In a sense they are two sides of the same coin. Is it fair to say that John 3:16 also implies "whomsever believes the gospel of Jesus Christ, in Him and His gospel?"

Romans 10:16-17 KJV
(16) But they have not all obeyed the gospel. For Esaias saith, Lord, who hath believed our report?
(17) So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.

 

[JudgeRightly]

I believe it is wrong. No one knows what Jesus looks like.

He most likely looked something like this.

 

[lifeisgood]

I believe it is wrong. No one knows what Jesus looks like.

It is not the picture that is wrong (and you are right that no one knows what Jesus looks like). It is that people worship the picture and God has prohibited worshiping a thing as if that thing (picture, embroidery, statue, etc) was God.

God has never been against beauty:
Exodus 36:35 - And he made a veil of blue, and purple, and scarlet, and fine twined linen: with cherubims made he it of cunning work.

However, when Aaron made the calf of gold, people got killed because they worshiped the calf of gold saying that that calf of gold was God.

 

[JudgeRightly]

It is not the picture that is wrong (and you are right that no one knows what Jesus looks like). It is that people worship the picture and God has prohibited worshiping a thing as if that thing (picture, embroidery, statue, etc) was God.

God has never been against beauty:
Exodus 36:35 - And he made a veil of blue, and purple, and scarlet, and fine twined linen: with cherubims made he it of cunning work.

However, when Aaron made the calf of gold, people got killed because they worshiped the calf of gold saying that that calf of gold was God.

He most likely looked something like this.

For He shall grow up before Him as a tender plant, And as a root out of dry ground. He has no form or comeliness; And when we see Him, There is no beauty that we should desire Him. - Isaiah 53:2 http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Isaiah53:2&version=NKJV

 

[Rosenritter]

He most likely looked something like this.

I'm sure he had brownish-blonde hair, blue eyes, rolls of flabby white skin, and a faraway gaze into the distance. That's how he looks in all the paintings.

 

[1Mind1Spirit]

1Mind, could you help me out here? How does that passage from the Epistle of Barnabas establish whether angels were before the Lord (had already been created) when God reviewed his work and said, "Let us make man in our own image?" I know who was speaking, and I know who was creating, the question being whether the angels were created before or after that event.

The significance of the answer being that a ruler or leader can speak in the plural sense that he represents his nation, or his heavenly host. The "royal we" is a very old concept:



It seems to me that this is a much simpler understanding (and thus more likely) possibility of what "Let us create man in our image, after our likeness" signifies, rather than the One God, whom we are told created the heavens and the earth alone, by himself, singular, whom we are told over and over again "the LORD your God is One LORD" being actually a closet threesome.

Barnabas said God spoke directly to his son.

Why would I believe any different?

 

[God's Truth]

Nah. All come with a measure of faith.

So all are saved?

 

[God's Truth]

Repentance is not obeying. Repentance is sincere regret or remorse. It is a heart thing. Nothing to do with doing.

Repentance is obeying.
Jesus tells us to repent.

 

[Truster]

Repentance is not obeying. Repentance is sincere regret or remorse. It is a heart thing. Nothing to do with doing.

Repentance causes regret, but spiritual repentance is not simply regret.

 

[1Mind1Spirit]

I think the modern equivalent of lots is prayer and fasting. I don't know enough of the canonization process to vouch for any individuals, but even among chaos I believe that the results were within God's power to guide the outcome.

Besides this, I have investigated some of the non-canonical books on my own, and I think I understand why they weren't chosen.

I believe I was led to them by the Lord.

While askin' for a fish why would he give me a serpent?

 

[God's Truth]

It is not the picture that is wrong (and you are right that no one knows what Jesus looks like). It is that people worship the picture and God has prohibited worshiping a thing as if that thing (picture, embroidery, statue, etc) was God.

God has never been against beauty:
Exodus 36:35 - And he made a veil of blue, and purple, and scarlet, and fine twined linen: with cherubims made he it of cunning work.

However, when Aaron made the calf of gold, people got killed because they worshiped the calf of gold saying that that calf of gold was God.

No one knows what Jesus looks like. It would be wrong to make any picture.