You don't even know who Jesus is so you are not saved anyway.
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You don't even know who Jesus is so you are not saved anyway.
You are self appointed judge. shame on you.
Jerry Shugart
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Yes, and here is what we are to believe about the Lord Jesus to be born of God:
"Whosoever believeth that Jesus is the Christ is born of God: and every one that loveth him that begat loveth him also that is begotten of him. By this we know that we love the children of God, when we love God, and keep his commandments. For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments: and his commandments are not grievous. For whatsoever is born of God overcometh the world: and this is the victory that overcometh the world, even our faith. Who is he that overcometh the world, but he that believeth that Jesus is the Son of God?" (1 Jn.5:1-5).
What do the words "Son of God" mean? Let us look how Paul used the term "son of..." when speaking to a sorcerer named Elymas:
"O full of all deceit and all fraud, you son of the devil, you enemy of all righteousness, will you not cease perverting the straight ways of the Lord?" (Acts 13:10).
Of course Paul was not saying that Elymas was a literal son of the devil. Instead, he was saying that the "nature" of Elymas is that of the devil. So when it is said that the Lord Jesus is the "son of man" what is being said that His nature is that of man. And when it is said that He is the "son of God" what is being said is that His very nature is that of God.
Let us look at the way that the Unitarians understood the term "son of man" in regard to the Lord Jesus. The say:
"He did not 'toot his own horn,' but instead called himself 'the son of man,' which, in the Aramaic language he spoke, meant 'a man'" (biblicalunitarian.com).
Since in the Aramaic language the term "son of man" means "man" then we can understand that in the same language the term "son of God" means "God."
The same can be said about the way the Lord Jesus used the word "Father" when speaking to unbelievers:
"Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it" (Jn.8:44).
The Lord Jesus was not saying that their real father was actually the devil. Instead, he was saying that their "nature" is that of the devil.
When the Lord Jesus told the Jews that God was His Father they knew that He was claiming to be God:
"But Jesus answered them, My Father worketh hitherto, and I work. Therefore the Jews sought the more to kill him, because he not only had broken the sabbath, but said also that God was his Father, making himself equal with God" (Jn.5:17-18).
If this was just a misunderstanding and the Lord Jesus is not equal to God then there can be no doubt that He would have cleared up this misunderstanding and said that He was not claiming to be God.
However, what He told them only made it plainer that He was claiming to be God.
First, He told them that He had the same power to raise up the dead as does the Father (v.21). He then said that all judgment has been committed to Him (v.22). Then He told them this:
"That all men should honour the Son, even as they honour the Father. He that honoureth not the Son honoureth not the Father which hath sent him" (Jn.5:23).
There can be absolutely no doubt that by those words the Lord Jesus was confirming the Jews' idea that He was making Himself equal to God. And there is no reason at all why He would say those things unless He is God.
Folks, if you do not believe that the Lord Jesus is God then you are not born of God.
Good for me. I can recognize a wolf in sheep's clothing.
So can I. You are one of the wolves clearly.
suit yourself, usurping Jesus' authority to judge.
You are on ignore. I don't waste time reading and replying to your perverted or wicked claims.
I don't think Meshak ever read John 7:24 or Matthew 7:1-5...
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Thank You.
Eagles Wings
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I consider anti-Trinitarianism to be of the devil. One who does not profess, Jesus Christ, as the Son of God in His divinity and the Son of Man in His humanity, is not Christian.
You have been longsuffering for, our Lord, on this crucial topic. This is not a compliment per se, simply an observation.
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Precisely.
God's Truth
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You need to be careful how you judge others, for it is how you will be judged.
What is wrong with making an observation if it is true?
God's Truth
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You have falsely judged me before and I hate to see how that will go for you if you keep making those kinds of mistakes.
You need to come to the Lord in repentance for not knowing Him for who He is. Then you may be saved.
God's Truth
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Again, you should be more careful.
Only those who obey know who Jesus is.
1 John 2:4 Whoever says, "I know him," but does not do what he commands is a liar, and the truth is not in that person.
One of the things Jesus says is that the same way you judge, you will be judged.
It is you who are devil. It is important for you to protect you man-made doctrine, and observing Jesus' teaching is not essential to you, trins.
You are nothing but lip servers.
You do not know who He is. He is separate from the Father and the Spirit
I don't think I ever posted these, but Keypurr, I recommend that you listen to them.
http://kgov.com/bel/20160714
http://kgov.com/bel/20160721
http://kgov.com/bel/20160728
These also answer some of the posts that GT and BR were posting, as well as adresses Meshak.
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http://kgov.com/bel/20160714
http://kgov.com/bel/20160721
http://kgov.com/bel/20160728
These also answer some of the posts that GT and BR were posting, as well as adresses Meshak.
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Thank you, excellent study.
Eagles Wings
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(Paraphrased from a bible study on the two natures of Christ)
The Gospel of John begins by declaring the divinity of Christ and ends with a resounding confession of the deity of the risen Lord.
John 1:1
John 20:28
Then we have the words of Christ who commends those who believe without visible evidence. We are to have faith in His divine testimony.
John 20:29
The Gospel of John begins by declaring the divinity of Christ and ends with a resounding confession of the deity of the risen Lord.
John 1:1
John 20:28
Then we have the words of Christ who commends those who believe without visible evidence. We are to have faith in His divine testimony.
John 20:29