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So, is God the Father not your king?

He stepped aside and appointed his son as king, But at the end of Rev 20 this occurs-1Cor 15:24-28--Jesus must hand back the kingdom to his God and Father and subject himself. Then YHWH(Jehovah) resumes being-King of eternity.
 

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@kjw47 Paul says that there is ONE LORD...

Eph 4:4-6 (AKJV/PCE)
(4:4) [There is] one body, and one Spirit, even as ye are called in one hope of your calling; (4:5) One Lord, one faith, one baptism, (4:6) One God and Father of all, who [is] above all, and through all, and in you all.

Is that the LORD GOD or the LORD JESUS CHRIST?

The word LORD all capitols doesnt belong in the OT to start with- YHWH belongs in those spots-- That is why you are mislead. And you dont believe Paul-1 Cor 8:5-6--He warns of all other Gods being false then names only the Father as the true God--same thing Jesus did at John 4:22-24
 

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Catholicism translated to latin in the 300,s ce.
So what? I don't follow the Romanists.
If Hebrews translated the NT there would be a god in the last line at John 1:1--They never served a trinity.
No clue what you're talking about.

The original manuscripts of the Biblical text were written primarily in Hebrew and Greek. There are still copies of those around today.

The Hebrew scripture does, indeed, show a plurality in the Godhead. Like its use of the PLURAL form of ONE here:

Deut 6:4 (AKJV/PCE)
(6:4) Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God [is] one LORD:

H259 אֶחָד 'echad (ech-awd') adj.
1. (properly) united, i.e. one.
2. (as an ordinal) first.
[a numeral from H258]
KJV: a, alike, alone, altogether, and, any(-thing), apiece, a certain, (dai-)ly, each (one), + eleven, every, few, first, + highway, a man, once, one, only, other, some, together.
Root(s): H258
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The word LORD all capitols doesnt belong in the OT to start with- YHWH belongs in those spots-- That is why you are mislead. And you dont believe Paul-1 Cor 8:5-6--He warns of all other Gods being false then names only the Father as the true God--same thing Jesus did at John 4:22-24
Silly nonsense from a silly person.
 

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He stepped aside

He stepped aside from what?

and appointed his son as king,

Appointed His Son as king of what?

But at the end of Rev 20 this occurs-1Cor 15:24-28--Jesus must hand back the kingdom to his God and Father and subject himself.

The king (Jesus) must hand over His kingdom and subject Himself to someone you say is not even the king (God the Father)? Isn't it the king who calls the shots?

Then YHWH(Jehovah) resumes being-King of eternity.

So you call Jesus, whom you say is not even eternal, "King of eternity"?

Is God the Father presently subject to Jesus?
 
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I agree its your false dilemmas that prevent you from seeing reality. Because some man with a white collar told you the opposite.
Why does this man get a free pass from you on wearing a white collar, Russellite?

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Catholicism translated to latin in the 300,s ce.

The only one here who's Catholic is Idolater. Everyone else is protestant. You're beating at a straw man.

If Hebrews translated the NT there would be a god in the last line at John 1:1

John 1:1 was written in Greek, not Hebrew.

And Charles Russell (the founder of the Watchtower Society) didn't know Greek. He's the one who asserted that John 1:1 should read "a god" instead of God. During his trial in 1913, he was asked if he even knew the Greek alphabet, to which he answered yes, yet when shown Greek letters from the Greek alphabet, he could not identify any of them.

--They never served a trinity.

Correction: Charles Russell never served the Triune God, yet you serve Russell by promoting his nonsense.
 

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So what? I don't follow the Romanists.

No clue what you're talking about.

The original manuscripts of the Biblical text were written primarily in Hebrew and Greek. There are still copies of those around today.

The Hebrew scripture does, indeed, show a plurality in the Godhead. Like its use of the PLURAL form of ONE here:

Deut 6:4 (AKJV/PCE)
(6:4) Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God [is] one LORD:

H259 אֶחָד 'echad (ech-awd') adj.
1. (properly) united, i.e. one.
2. (as an ordinal) first.
[a numeral from H258]
KJV: a, alike, alone, altogether, and, any(-thing), apiece, a certain, (dai-)ly, each (one), + eleven, every, few, first, + highway, a man, once, one, only, other, some, together.
Root(s): H258
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Gods name belongs at Deut 6:4--not LORD. There is no plurality at Deut 6:4
Even the Hebrew word Elohim= never plural for the true living God in the Hebrew language.
Let us( YHWH(Jehovah) and his master worker( Jesus) prov 8) make man in our image is correct.
The Israelite religion-NEVER served the true God as a trinity=100% fact.
 

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He stepped aside from what?



Appointed His Son as king of what?



The king (Jesus) must hand over His kingdom and subject Himself to someone you say is not even the king (God the Father)? Isn't it the king who calls the shots?



So you call Jesus, whom you say is not even eternal, "King of eternity"?

Is God the Father presently subject to Jesus?


He appointed Jesus as king of his kingdom--Jesus tells you the kingdom belongs to his Father in the Lords prayer= Thy kingdom come.
Daniel 7:13-15 The ancient of days= YHWH, appointed one like the son of man( a created being) king of his kingdom. That is Jesus.
None is higher than God. If Jesus were God, he was already king, but he was appointed and must hand it back.
No i did not say Jesus is king of eternity. 1Cor 15:24-28--
 

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Why does this man get a free pass from you on wearing a white collar, Russellite?

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Mr Russell made some errors. He as well uncovered many truths. The errors were corrected. He only had error filled trinity translation to go by. The difference is trinity religions NEVER correct the errors.
 

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Mr Russell made some errors. He as well uncovered many truths. The errors were corrected. He only had error filled trinity translation to go by. The difference is trinity religions NEVER correct the errors.

Russell was a fraud and a false prophet.

We reject the teachings of false prophets, not give them credit.
 

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The only one here who's Catholic is Idolater. Everyone else is protestant. You're beating at a straw man.



John 1:1 was written in Greek, not Hebrew.

And Charles Russell (the founder of the Watchtower Society) didn't know Greek. He's the one who asserted that John 1:1 should read "a god" instead of God. During his trial in 1913, he was asked if he even knew the Greek alphabet, to which he answered yes, yet when shown Greek letters from the Greek alphabet, he could not identify any of them.



Correction: Charles Russell never served the Triune God, yet you serve Russell by promoting his nonsense.


In 1822 a Greek scholar ( A. Kneeland) translated the NT from the Greek lexicons, he compared Greek to English side by side to prove to the world a god was correct. 19 other translations in history had a god, 3 had was divine. All rejected by trinity clergys because truth exposes them as false religions. Billions of $$$$ would be thrown away yearly, not to mention 2 billion very angry mislead followers who would probably sue them and get their money back.
The Pharisees said it was impossible for Jesus and the apostles to be spiritual teachers, They did not attend their schools of men. Maybe you forget-Jesus promised holy spirit to guide his teachers into all truth. They dont need to know languages, God knows them.
 

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Is a plural word. The "-im" ending makes it so.

Its plural for the false trinity gods served back in those days. But Every Hebrew scholar on earth will tell you-NEVER plural for the true living God in their Hebrew written OT. Its your blind guides who say its plural for the true living God.
 

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Russell was a fraud and a false prophet.

We reject the teachings of false prophets, not give them credit.

Mr Russell never made up a prophecy. He spoke on a true prophecy that God prophecied called Armageddon. His error was trying to put a date on a true prophecy. There is nothing false about Armageddon. Only an apostate would label Gods true prophecy a false prophecy.
 

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No i did not say Jesus is king of eternity.

Nobody asked if you said "Jesus is king of eternity". I asked you if you call Jesus "King of eternity". Do you? Yes or No?

Then YHWH(Jehovah) resumes being-King of eternity.

Why resumes? Had YHWH left off "being-King of eternity" so that He needs to resume "being-King of eternity"? If so, then who would you say is "being-King of eternity" in the interim?
 
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