The teachings of Jesus-few know them.

kjw47

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Here are 8 teachings from Jesus found in every translation on earth, but few know them correctly. That is sad because its hard to obey if they do not know what he actually teaches--John 3:36-assures all--those not obeying Jesus( every teaching) remain in Gods wrath.

1) Matthew 6:33- Therefore, keep on seeking- FIRST- the kingdom and his ( YHWH(Jehovah) righteousness and all these things will be added( sustenance, covering, spirituality) Matt 6
2) Matthew 5:5- Blessed are the meek for they will inherit the earth( great crowd this is to)
3) The Lords prayer- Hallowed be thy( Father) name= YHWH(Jehovah)--some translations-last line= the kingdom, power and glort all belong to the Father.
4)Jesus teaches he has a God just like us-John 20:17, Rev 3:12= his Father.----- Paul teaches the same-1Cor 15:24-28--Coll 1:3--Eph 1:13,17---Peter teaches the same-1Pet 1:3
5)In a prayer to his Father-John 17:1-6,26-- verse 3-- This means eternal life, their knowing you( Father) THE ONLY TRUE GOD and the one whom you sent forth Christ Jesus.--verse 6 = YHWH(Jehovah) verse 26 = YHWH(Jehovah)
6) John 4:22-24--Jesus starts by warning all other gods are false. Then says-the true worshippers will worship the Father in spirit and truth----Paul does the same at 1Cor 8:5-6--warns of the false gods then names only the Father as God.
7) John 5:30--Jesus teaches he can do 0 of his own
8) Another warning from Jesus-- He says--ones would do things( say things) against the true followers on account of his name( thinking they are standing up for it)Why?? Because they do not know the one whosent him= Father= YHWH(Jehovah)

Itsa100% guarantee, the teachers who Jesus is with teach exactly what he taught without fail. any others are these-2Cor 11:12-15
 

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4)Jesus teaches he has a God just like us-John 20:17, Rev 3:12= his Father.----- Paul teaches the same-1Cor 15:24-28--Coll 1:3--Eph 1:13,17---Peter teaches the same-1Pet 1:3
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Is Jesus God or the son of God? If Jesus has a God like we have a God, is Jesus more like us than he is like God?

Thanks for your consideration,
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kjw47

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Is Jesus God or the son of God? If Jesus has a God like we have a God, is Jesus more like us than he is like God?

Thanks for your consideration,
BD
A good day to you Lawson, He is a created being.= The firstborn of all creation Coll 1:15)--At Daniel 7:13-15--The ancient of days = God, someone like the son of man is meaning one who is created. He is Gods master worker of Proverbs 8, he was the one beside God during the creation process--He says he was created at prov 8. The capitol G God in the last line at John 1:1 is error. Even trinity translation proves it in the Greek lexicons--In the second line at John1:1-the true God is called Ho Theos=The God--plain Theos is in the last line, clearly showing he was not being called The God, a god small g is correct. The only other spot in the NT where that occurs is at 2 Cor 4:4--satan called Theos of this system of things, small g god, the true God called Ho Theos = The God. There are many errors translated into trinity translation to fit false council teachings from centuries ago.
Jesus is the son of God. God did it all through him-Acts 2:22, 1Cor 8:5-6--giving him godlike qualities.
 
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He is a created being.

No, He's not.

= The firstborn of all creation Coll 1:15)--

Yes.

At Daniel 7:13-15--The ancient of days = God,

Yes, that's Jesus.

someone like the son of man is meaning one who is created.

Nope.

He is Gods master worker of Proverbs 8,

Yup. That's Christ.

he was the one beside God during the creation process--

Wrong. He IS the Creator God.

He says he was created

No, He doesn't.

at prov 8.

Nope. That chapter doesn't say what you want it to say.

The capitol G God in the last line at John 1:1 is error.

Saying it doesn't make it so.

KOINE Greek doesn't have capital letters. We understand that God alone is the one being talked about in John 1:1 by the grammar, and by the context.

Even trinity translation proves it in the Greek lexicons--

False.

In the second line at John1:1-the true God is called Ho Theos=The God--plain Theos is in the last line, clearly showing he was not being called The God, a god small g is correct.

False. Here's why:

If you've ever actually read the Greek, you would know that the verse says:

en arche en ho logos kai ho logos en pros ton theon kai theos en ho logos

Translated literally to English:

In beginning was the logos and the logos was with the God and God was the logos.

There's a rule of grammar that applies both in English and in Greek called the Granville Sharp rule. It states, "When the copulative kai connects two nouns of the same case, [vis. nouns (either substantive or adjective, or participles) of personal description, respecting office, dignity, affinity, or connection, and attributes, properties, or qualities, good or ill], if the article ho, or any of its cases, precedes the first of the said nouns or participles and is not repeated before the second noun or participle, the latter always relates to the same person that is expressed or described by the first noun or participle." (Remarks on the Uses of the Definitive Article) This applies here in John 1:1, because it states the logos was with THE GOD and GOD was the logos.

In other words, both "THEON" and "THEOS" are referring to the same entity, God Himself.

The only other spot in the NT where that occurs is at 2 Cor 4:4--satan called Theos of this system of things, small g god,

2 Corinthians 4:4 isn't talking about satan. It's talking about "the god of the age." That could be anything, such as, to use an example from our current time, pornography, abortion, homosexuality, power or wealth (the last two of those not being inherently wrong). It refers to things that have blinded the minds of the unbelieving. Satan doesn't have time to blind every last man, woman, and child who doesn't believe in God. He is not omnipresent.

the true God called Ho Theos = The God.

John 1:1 "The God" is "ton Theon," FYI.

There are many errors translated into trinity translation to fit false council teachings from centuries ago.

Elephant hurling.

There are errors that have crept into ALL Bibles. None of them are part of a conspiracy by trinitarians "to fit false council teachings from centuries ago."

Jesus is the son of God.

He is the Son of God. He is God.

God did it all through him-Acts 2:22,

Yes, Jesus is subservient to His Father.

That doesn't mean He's not God.

1Cor 8:5-6--

One God and One Lord, Jesus Christ.

giving him godlike qualities.

Jesus is God. The sooner you accept that fact, the better.
 

kjw47

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No, He's not.



Yes.



Yes, that's Jesus.



Nope.



Yup. That's Christ.



Wrong. He IS the Creator God.



No, He doesn't.



Nope. That chapter doesn't say what you want it to say.



Saying it doesn't make it so.

KOINE Greek doesn't have capital letters. We understand that God alone is the one being talked about in John 1:1 by the grammar, and by the context.



False.



False. Here's why:

If you've ever actually read the Greek, you would know that the verse says:

en arche en ho logos kai ho logos en pros ton theon kai theos en ho logos

Translated literally to English:

In beginning was the logos and the logos was with the God and God was the logos.

There's a rule of grammar that applies both in English and in Greek called the Granville Sharp rule. It states, "When the copulative kai connects two nouns of the same case, [vis. nouns (either substantive or adjective, or participles) of personal description, respecting office, dignity, affinity, or connection, and attributes, properties, or qualities, good or ill], if the article ho, or any of its cases, precedes the first of the said nouns or participles and is not repeated before the second noun or participle, the latter always relates to the same person that is expressed or described by the first noun or participle." (Remarks on the Uses of the Definitive Article) This applies here in John 1:1, because it states the logos was with THE GOD and GOD was the logos.

In other words, both "THEON" and "THEOS" are referring to the same entity, God Himself.



2 Corinthians 4:4 isn't talking about satan. It's talking about "the god of the age." That could be anything, such as, to use an example from our current time, pornography, abortion, homosexuality, power or wealth (the last two of those not being inherently wrong). It refers to things that have blinded the minds of the unbelieving. Satan doesn't have time to blind every last man, woman, and child who doesn't believe in God. He is not omnipresent.



John 1:1 "The God" is "ton Theon," FYI.



Elephant hurling.

There are errors that have crept into ALL Bibles. None of them are part of a conspiracy by trinitarians "to fit false council teachings from centuries ago."



He is the Son of God. He is God.



Yes, Jesus is subservient to His Father.

That doesn't mean He's not God.



One God and One Lord, Jesus Christ.



Jesus is God. The sooner you accept that fact, the better.

You must really live in darkness. Every scholar on earth knows 2Cor 4:4 is satan.
Errors by trinity translators( catholicism) centuries ago to fit false council teachings is what you believe over Gods own son. Do you think that is a wise place to be standing? Lets compasre Jesus and trinity teachers

John 17:3--Jesus is 100% clear-the one who sent him= Father is THE ONLY TRUE GOD, and the other point found there is that God did not come to Earth he sent the being named Jesus named as a mortal.

Trinity teachers--God is a trinity, God came to earth

Not to hard to see that they contradict one another.

At the first council of Nicea, 325ce no trinity god was taught or served. It was added in 381ce at the council of Constantinople- a false teaching. Facts of true God worship history backs that fact

From Moses on up until this very day, the Israelite religion, teach, serve and worship the Abrahamic God=a single being God= YHWH(Jehovah) Thus this was the God taught to and served by Jesus when he attended those places of worship, as was every bible writer.

So 1) Jesus teachings as i showed in the OP prove it fact. The reality of true God worship history proves its fact. One cannot have any better backing than that. The mass of confusion called 34,000 trinity religions = a house divided will not stand. They fail this true mark 100%-1 Cor 1:10-- Unity of thought( all of Gods 1 truth) no division.

Other facts you are missing---God is king of eternity, Jesus had to be appointed, and Jesus must hand the kingdom back to his God and Father( 1Cor 15:24-28) and subject himself= forever.
Jesus was given all authority and the name above other names. If he were God would have already had them. Same with the kingship.
 

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I believe in One Lord Jesus Christ, only begotten Son of God. Born of the Father before all ages. God from God, light from light, true God from true God, begotten, not made, consubstantial with the Father. Through Him all things were made.

Begotton means--Created direct-first and last. He tells you so at Prov 8. Firstborn of all creation( Coll 1:15)--All creation occurred at the beginning.
 

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Jesus teaches he has a God just like us-John 20:17, Rev 3:12= his Father.----- Paul teaches the same-1Cor 15:24-28--Coll 1:3--Eph 1:13,17---Peter teaches the same-1Pet 1:3

From where in the Bible did you get your phrase, "has a God"? Correct: You did not get it from the Bible, because it's not in the Bible; it's not in the Gospels, it's not in Paul, it's not in Peter. It's nowhere in the Bible. So, what (if anything) do you mean by your extra-Biblical phrase, "has a God," when you say "Jesus...has a God"? Obviously, since the Bible does not use your phrase, "has a God," the Bible never means anything by your phrase, "has a God," since the Bible cannot mean something by words it never uses.
 

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False accusations will get you nowhere around here.
Try believing Jesus in the OP 8 teachings. They are in every translation on earth. If ones teachers teach contradictory things they are these teachers-2Cor 11:12-15) All who listen to those teachers are in darkness.
 

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From where in the Bible did you get your phrase, "has a God"? Correct: You did not get it from the Bible, because it's not in the Bible; it's not in the Gospels, it's not in Paul, it's not in Peter. It's nowhere in the Bible. So, what (if anything) do you mean by your extra-Biblical phrase, "has a God," when you say "Jesus...has a God"? Obviously, since the Bible does not use your phrase, "has a God," the Bible never means anything by your phrase, "has a God," since the Bible cannot mean something by words it never uses.
Any can try twist the truth Jesus teaches. It gets them no where. He clearly teaches-The Father is his God just like ours. That means his real teachers teach that fact as well. Like Paul and Peter did.
 

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No, you made a false claim as to what it means.
Another major error found in trinity translations = worship to Jesus.
The Greek word-Proskenaou( misspelled)--translates-To bow and kiss the feet. Carries 5 different meanings from Greek to English--1) Worship to God--2) Obeisance to a king--3) Honor to a judge, plus 2 others.
Now we apply facts--The Israelite religion knew 100% the Messiah has a God,( Psalm 45:7) And its Fact God does not have a God--They bowed in obeisance to Gods appointed king. another proof of that. The Israelite spiritual teachers condemned Jesus when they said he was claiming to be God(He didnt) thus Israelites would never bow in worship to him.
I share facts not false claims.
 

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Try believing Jesus in the OP 8 teachings. They are in every translation on earth. If ones teachers teach contradictory things they are these teachers-2Cor 11:12-15) All who listen to those teachers are in darkness.
Your JW faith will lead to the lake of fire.
 
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